Next Manager Speculation/Hopes

[cdbearsfan]

The team that spent the most money won the league. Hardly anything to get excited about. If Derek McInnes or Steve Clark had been "Rangers" manager for the same period and won the same number of trophies, there would not have been a single person listing them as a contender for the Villa job. His appointment was entirely based on starfucking, just as it was when we were linked with Henry a couple of years earlier.

[LeeB]

The team that spent the most money won the league. Hardly anything to get excited about. If Derek McInnes or Steve Clark had been "Rangers" manager for the same period and won the same number of trophies, there would not have been a single person listing them as a contender for the Villa job. His appointment was entirely based on starfucking, just as it was when we were linked with Henry a couple of years earlier.

Well yes. I'm pretty sure I used that exact term on here when the rumour first emerged that he was in the frame.

[Sexual Ealing]

That's unfair. I hate Rangers more than him, with Brazillian Villain and Percy in the Champions League spots

Now that's a kick in the bollocks.

[chrisw1]

Man United aren't in a two team league. If Man City win one trophy out of the next nine then (assuming they don't win the Champions League), Guardiola would be sacked.

There is no planet on which winning one trophy out of nine in a two team league having outspent all your rivals can be considered successful, and no amount of rewriting history can prove otherwise.

What do their fans think of his tenure there?  Do they think he under performed?  I note they havent won the SPL since he left.  Whether it was him or Beale, they delivered what other managers seem to have struggled to, two horse race or not.  He did ok in the Europa league as well didn't he?

I don't think it's fair to disparage his record at Rangers in honesty, and I think when you do it looks like you're looking for reasons to dislike him, when the shite football we have to watch is enough on it's own.

I agree with Lee.

[cdbearsfan]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. It would probably be unfair to disparage van Bronckhorst for not having won the league yet when he's only had a season in charge and Gerrard was in charge for the first half of it. They finished second, which is where they were when Gerrard left.

I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing competitions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

[cdbearsfan]

Also, Brazilian Villain is banned from the list of "Rangers" haters for being a Tory.

[LeeB]

That's unfair. I hate Rangers more than him, with Brazillian Villain and Percy in the Champions League spots

Now that's a kick in the bollocks.

There's still time to force your way in, Brazillian Villain's '70's man' lifestyle of chicks, Hi Karate and Vesta curries will catch up cause him to blow up in March.

[chrisw1]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing completions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

The Sevco stuff is tedious too.  Grow up.

[cdbearsfan]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing completions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

The Sevco stuff is tedious too.  Grow up.

Someone's in a sulk today. Feel free to debate the argument or don't, I don't care either way.

[LeeB]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing completions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

The Sevco stuff is tedious too.  Grow up.

Is it bollocks.

[chrisw1]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing completions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

The Sevco stuff is tedious too.  Grow up.

Someone's in a sulk today. Feel free to debate the argument or don't, I don't care either way.

There's no point debating it, I know the arguments for both sides.  The ownership of the club doesn't define it's history or spirit, no matter how much glee them going into liquidation gave you.  We probably came pretty close ourselves, and it's just the type of insult Blues fans would have loved to level at us as we fought out way back.  But we all would have remained fans and still seen it as our club, with our history playing at our ground in our colours.  No matter the technicalities of ownership.

I'm not a Rangers fan nor a fan of Scottish football.  I have no afinty for them whatsoever.  I can just identify Blues levels of obsession when I see it.

[PaulTheVillan]

Steve Bruce is available

[LeeB]

Saying you hate Rangers is like saying you hate Nazis.

It's not obsession, it's moral obligation.

[cdbearsfan]

"Rangers" don't play in the SPL. I deliberately excluded the European trophies when listing completions he had failed to win as considered that an unfair expectation. He did okay in the Europa League, his successor has already bettered any of his achievements in Europe.

The Sevco stuff is tedious too.  Grow up.

Someone's in a sulk today. Feel free to debate the argument or don't, I don't care either way.

There's no point debating it, I know the arguments for both sides.  The ownership of the club doesn't define it's history or spirit, no matter how much glee them going into liquidation gave you.  We probably came pretty close ourselves, and it's just the type of insult Blues fans would have loved to level at us as we fought out way back.  But we all would have remained fans and still seen it as our club, with our history playing at our ground in our colours.  No matter the technicalities of ownership.

I'm not a Rangers fan nor a fan of Scottish football.  I have no afinty for them whatsoever.  I can just identify Blues levels of obsession when I see it.

Hatred of bigotry and Far Right politics makes me "Blues", sure. This is a pretty shoddy post even by your standards. Rangers died.

[paul_e]

I don't think it's fair to disparage his record at Rangers in honesty, and I think when you do it looks like you're looking for reasons to dislike him, when the shite football we have to watch is enough on it's own.

I agree, his record at Rangers was fine, not spectacular but not a failure. His spending was massive in scotland but not ridiculous compared to teams in other leagues. Coupled with everything else it suggested he was an ok manager but was so inexperienced in genuniely competitive football (as a manager obviously) that he'd never been challenged in a way he inevitably would be with us.

What the last year has shown is that when things aren't working he struggles to turn it around and his only success has come from stripping away almost all creativity and attacking flair to protect a clean sheet and hope for something on the counter attack. We've had that strip back approach 3 times now and the first 2 times it gave a short term boost but he couldn't sustain it, I suspect we're going to see a hattrick on that front betwene now and the world cup but if he does actuallly work it out this time he'll save his job and hopefully start to look like he knows what he's doing.