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Offline Des Little

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2022, 10:33:42 AM »
A fit and firing Bailey could be massive for the season.  Let's hope it happens.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2022, 10:34:38 AM »
As is....11th > 13th

With a new forward (or if Cam proves that his potential is real) and, maybe, another midfield option....8th > 10th

No cup wins
You honestly think our squad is 11-13th  material?  A squad with the likes of Coutinho, Kamara, Digne, Carlos, Buendia, Bailey, Ramsey, McGinn should righly be finishing below the likes of Brighton, Southampton, Wolves, Newcastle and Palace?

It should......but I have my doubts that it will.

How much can Bailey be relied on ?

Same goes for Phil, to a lesser extent ?

McGinn is not the force that he was since opposition started backing off him and not 'engaging with the arse' to let him roll off them.

I've no real confidence in Ings or Watkins and I think Gerrard will try to shoehorn both into the starting lineup.

Other teams have also improved



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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2022, 10:38:44 AM »
As is....11th > 13th

With a new forward (or if Cam proves that his potential is real) and, maybe, another midfield option....8th > 10th

No cup wins
You honestly think our squad is 11-13th  material?  A squad with the likes of Coutinho, Kamara, Digne, Carlos, Buendia, Bailey, Ramsey, McGinn should righly be finishing below the likes of Brighton, Southampton, Wolves, Newcastle and Palace?

It should......but I have my doubts that it will.

How much can Bailey be relied on ?

Same goes for Phil, to a lesser extent ?

McGinn is not the force that he was since opposition started backing off him and not 'engaging with the arse' to let him roll off them.

I've no real confidence in Ings or Watkins and I think Gerrard will try to shoehorn both into the starting lineup.

Other teams have also improved
This is where I am at, sadly pessimistic.
I just hope that I am wrong and Gerrard shows us that he is the young up coming managerial titan now he has his team and a full pre season to shape the way we play.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2022, 10:38:46 AM »
I understand all the concerns about our strikeforce. But is this really going to ruin our season?

There were 1,071 goals in the Premier League last season. But only 14 players scored more than ten goals.

We know Watkins is capable of scoring 14 a season in the top-flight as he did it in 2020-21. Last season only 8 players scored more than 14 Premier League goals and only Spurs had two players who did.

To upgrade Watkins we are looking at a Kane, Son, Salah, Mane, Ronaldo, Jota, or Vardy player. We're not getting any of them. And anyone who might turn out to be of their level is going to be both costly and / or an unproven gamble.

The figures show that goals are increasingly being spread out through the team, rather than a traditional focal point striker. So it makes sense that we have spent on the midfield rather than a striker gamble as that is where we are most likely to gain. If we can get the likes of Coutinho, Buendia, Bailey and Ramsey playing well and consistently, we are capable of scoring the goals we need.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2022, 11:27:15 AM »
Depends on what you mean by "ruin".

I'm not predicting that Villa will be battling relegation, just that there's enough areas of doubt to make me think that mid-table (or just below) is more likely than top eight

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2022, 11:29:16 AM »
60 points is realistic and achievable. That should give us a decent league placing on average.

Plenty of game time for the likes of KKH, Archer, Tim, etc. That will enable us to see which areas need strengthening next summer (hopefully reduced). Could be break through years for a number of those lads and will show a pathway for future youngsters. I think Villa can steal on march on other clubs by becoming the best club to develop at with realistic opportunities to impress.

Finally, developing the culture at the club. The players need to see that if they perform they play and that reputation guarantees nothing. That being the case, Archer, Bailey and Chambers would probably all be starting against Bournemouth.

All achievable, all indicating further growth.

I’m not sure basing team selection on alphabetic order is the right way to go.

It's as easy as squad number (Martinez, Cash, Digne....) though.....

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2022, 11:33:09 AM »
With our squad and funding anything below 8th is a failure.  We need to stop thinking 10th is progress and good enough.  It's not.  We underperformed last season - 14th isn't an acceptable starting point to base our aspirations for this season on.

That’s how I see it. This is the first pre-season since promotion where there have been no undue disruptions. No replacing loan players or Covid and no players leaving to throw a spanner in the works.

Gerrard has been backed we’ve got competition for places so I’m hoping that coupled with some increased use of the whole squad we have a much more consistent season.

The way our squad is now, there is proper competition for places. Nobody should be undroppable. If he does what he says, then those that show it in training and matches get a shirt; which is how it should be.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2022, 04:26:10 PM »
The Guardian Villa season Preview


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/25/premier-league-2022-23-preview-no-2-aston-villa

Respendant already with guttersnipe comments from noses and their genetically deprived cousins from Leeds.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2022, 04:30:28 PM »
The Guardian Villa season Preview


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/25/premier-league-2022-23-preview-no-2-aston-villa

I read this, it's disappointing. Surely in the close season when there is no football and everyone is eager and full of optimism they'd benefit from actually spending time to do some in-depth analysis and writing something insightful? Instead it's nothing more than a quick google will throw up and any football fan could put together.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2022, 04:45:35 PM »
The Guardian Villa season Preview


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/25/premier-league-2022-23-preview-no-2-aston-villa

I read this, it's disappointing. Surely in the close season when there is no football and everyone is eager and full of optimism they'd benefit from actually spending time to do some in-depth analysis and writing something insightful? Instead it's nothing more than a quick google will throw up and any football fan could put together.

I think it's aimed at fans of other clubs so they get a bit of info.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2022, 04:46:48 PM »
Top half of table and we beat a top 6 in the League Cup final.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2022, 04:52:14 PM »
That squad, as it stands, should finish 8 or 9th, any deviation on that is what Gerrard adds/subtracts.
I think this is probably about right

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2022, 05:19:23 PM »
In the league I’d say 10th is minimum requirement, after that depends on the last bits of activity in the transfer window and how quickly we hit the ground running, has Gerrard Learnt from last season and how he uses the stronger squad he now has.

In the Cups, minimum qtr finals in both  competitions so let’s hope we get some favourable draws we’re due them.

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Re: 22/23 season expectations.
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2022, 05:25:19 PM »
The Guardian Villa season Preview


https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/25/premier-league-2022-23-preview-no-2-aston-villa

In line with the usual well thought out views from the Guardian on Villa.

 


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