Genuinely no problem with the thinking behind it, the design itself or its execution.*EDIT* Well done!
Here you go Frank
A guy on Twitter has posted a critique and opinion thread on the Heck crest, identified where he thinks it doesn't work and altered it with his recommendations. The above is his design.I think it is superb and does everything the club said they wanted it to do.
Quote from: Smirker on January 10, 2024, 07:23:53 PMA guy on Twitter has posted a critique and opinion thread on the Heck crest, identified where he thinks it doesn't work and altered it with his recommendations. The above is his design.I think it is superb and does everything the club said they wanted it to do.Just give this guy a call, really good.
Quote from: Reformation on January 10, 2024, 04:42:31 PMThis is an interesting debate across platforms, not just because we can all see 'what we could have won' but also because we've all had different iterations through our lives - regardless of generations that evokes some sense of 'what is Aston Villa' to each of us.What's interesting about that is there's a bunch of like 10 year olds out there, only getting into football properly now, following a team that are about the embark on a continued period of success, or at least competing for it, and they will associate that great formational period with the Heck crest. And in 25 years time, when there's talk about rebranding for the 175th, they'll be spitting feathers about any changes being made.
This is an interesting debate across platforms, not just because we can all see 'what we could have won' but also because we've all had different iterations through our lives - regardless of generations that evokes some sense of 'what is Aston Villa' to each of us.
Quote from: AV84 on January 10, 2024, 05:52:50 PMQuote from: Reformation on January 10, 2024, 04:42:31 PMThis is an interesting debate across platforms, not just because we can all see 'what we could have won' but also because we've all had different iterations through our lives - regardless of generations that evokes some sense of 'what is Aston Villa' to each of us.What's interesting about that is there's a bunch of like 10 year olds out there, only getting into football properly now, following a team that are about the embark on a continued period of success, or at least competing for it, and they will associate that great formational period with the Heck crest. And in 25 years time, when there's talk about rebranding for the 175th, they'll be spitting feathers about any changes being made.Only if they’re blind.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on January 10, 2024, 09:53:58 PMQuote from: AV84 on January 10, 2024, 05:52:50 PMQuote from: Reformation on January 10, 2024, 04:42:31 PMThis is an interesting debate across platforms, not just because we can all see 'what we could have won' but also because we've all had different iterations through our lives - regardless of generations that evokes some sense of 'what is Aston Villa' to each of us.What's interesting about that is there's a bunch of like 10 year olds out there, only getting into football properly now, following a team that are about the embark on a continued period of success, or at least competing for it, and they will associate that great formational period with the Heck crest. And in 25 years time, when there's talk about rebranding for the 175th, they'll be spitting feathers about any changes being made.Only if they’re blind.Think you're missing the point there. If we go on a run of top 4 finishes, regular Champions League, a few trophies along the way, no kid is going to give 2 fupps what the crest looks like.
Quote from: AV84 on January 10, 2024, 09:57:03 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on January 10, 2024, 09:53:58 PMQuote from: AV84 on January 10, 2024, 05:52:50 PMQuote from: Reformation on January 10, 2024, 04:42:31 PMThis is an interesting debate across platforms, not just because we can all see 'what we could have won' but also because we've all had different iterations through our lives - regardless of generations that evokes some sense of 'what is Aston Villa' to each of us.What's interesting about that is there's a bunch of like 10 year olds out there, only getting into football properly now, following a team that are about the embark on a continued period of success, or at least competing for it, and they will associate that great formational period with the Heck crest. And in 25 years time, when there's talk about rebranding for the 175th, they'll be spitting feathers about any changes being made.Only if they’re blind.Think you're missing the point there. If we go on a run of top 4 finishes, regular Champions League, a few trophies along the way, no kid is going to give 2 fupps what the crest looks like.Sounds like you’re missing the point. A minute ago you said they’d be spitting feathers.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on January 10, 2024, 09:59:40 PMQuote from: AV84 on January 10, 2024, 09:57:03 PMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on January 10, 2024, 09:53:58 PMQuote from: AV84 on January 10, 2024, 05:52:50 PMQuote from: Reformation on January 10, 2024, 04:42:31 PMThis is an interesting debate across platforms, not just because we can all see 'what we could have won' but also because we've all had different iterations through our lives - regardless of generations that evokes some sense of 'what is Aston Villa' to each of us.What's interesting about that is there's a bunch of like 10 year olds out there, only getting into football properly now, following a team that are about the embark on a continued period of success, or at least competing for it, and they will associate that great formational period with the Heck crest. And in 25 years time, when there's talk about rebranding for the 175th, they'll be spitting feathers about any changes being made.Only if they’re blind.Think you're missing the point there. If we go on a run of top 4 finishes, regular Champions League, a few trophies along the way, no kid is going to give 2 fupps what the crest looks like.Sounds like you’re missing the point. A minute ago you said they’d be spitting feathers.Are you being deliberately argumentative or do you really not understand what I'm saying? They won't care now that the badge looks like it does, but they will come to associate it with a time of great success and in years to come it will be the badge they associate with Aston Villa. I don't care one bit about a round badge because I was never alive while we had one, except for now. The stripey badge with a yellow lion and "prepared" says Aston Villa to me, just like the round one says Aston Villa to those who remember 1982.