Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 03:28:56 PMIt getting it “right” is massively subjective. It has to align with the objectives of the club and the fans. “Right” will always be a matter of opinion. And I am glad we didn’t commit to something we would have had to stick with for a long time. The new round badge wasn’t universally approved, lacked supporter alignment and the club changed leadership. Stopping it now was absolutely the right thing to do. No new badge is ever going to be universally approved. I think there's almpost universal agreement that the current Lerner-designed one is absolute shite though.
It getting it “right” is massively subjective. It has to align with the objectives of the club and the fans. “Right” will always be a matter of opinion. And I am glad we didn’t commit to something we would have had to stick with for a long time. The new round badge wasn’t universally approved, lacked supporter alignment and the club changed leadership. Stopping it now was absolutely the right thing to do.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 03:28:56 PMIt getting it “right” is massively subjective. It has to align with the objectives of the club and the fans. “Right” will always be a matter of opinion. And I am glad we didn’t commit to something we would have had to stick with for a long time. The new round badge wasn’t universally approved, lacked supporter alignment and the club changed leadership. Stopping it now was absolutely the right thing to do.I don’t think it is subjective, I think when it comes down to preference about things like kit and badges it’s pretty obvious for the majority.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 03:28:56 PMIt getting it “right” is massively subjective. It has to align with the objectives of the club and the fans. “Right” will always be a matter of opinion. And I am glad we didn’t commit to something we would have had to stick with for a long time. The new round badge wasn’t universally approved, lacked supporter alignment and the club changed leadership. Stopping it now was absolutely the right thing to do. How did the new round badge lack supporter alignment out of interest? They did a vote, it won. I don’t recall anyone really at the time raising that on here. When we change it again at the end of the season there won’t be any supporter involvement. I understand Heck doesn’t like it and it’s up to him but this just sounds like retrospectively changing the facts to fit what the club have done.
Reported? That sounds like nonsense to find an excuse to do what they’ve done. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t give a shit if they have changed their minds but it’s funny how people have now decided the vote was a sham and the badge that was chosen is rubbish. Serious question - you reckon there will be more or less supporter interaction when we unveil our new new badge?
Quote from: ChicagoLion on July 22, 2023, 03:33:00 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 03:28:56 PMIt getting it “right” is massively subjective. It has to align with the objectives of the club and the fans. “Right” will always be a matter of opinion. And I am glad we didn’t commit to something we would have had to stick with for a long time. The new round badge wasn’t universally approved, lacked supporter alignment and the club changed leadership. Stopping it now was absolutely the right thing to do.I don’t think it is subjective, I think when it comes down to preference about things like kit and badges it’s pretty obvious for the majority.Majority means it’s subjective as it means there will be a minority that won’t like it for whatever reason. For example I don’t give a fuck star or no star. That’s not the same for everyone.
I really like the new badge and for me the direction of the lion is facing the correct way. To me facing left is looking back. And aside from a couple of notable bright spots in the past 40 years (FORTY), we need to start looking to forward. Onwards. upwards and to the right with Unai.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 04:22:17 PMQuote from: ChicagoLion on July 22, 2023, 03:33:00 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on July 22, 2023, 03:28:56 PMIt getting it “right” is massively subjective. It has to align with the objectives of the club and the fans. “Right” will always be a matter of opinion. And I am glad we didn’t commit to something we would have had to stick with for a long time. The new round badge wasn’t universally approved, lacked supporter alignment and the club changed leadership. Stopping it now was absolutely the right thing to do.I don’t think it is subjective, I think when it comes down to preference about things like kit and badges it’s pretty obvious for the majority.Majority means it’s subjective as it means there will be a minority that won’t like it for whatever reason. For example I don’t give a fuck star or no star. That’s not the same for everyone.Maybe look up up the words subjective, objective and majority in an English dictionary.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on July 22, 2023, 05:18:41 PMReported? That sounds like nonsense to find an excuse to do what they’ve done. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t give a shit if they have changed their minds but it’s funny how people have now decided the vote was a sham and the badge that was chosen is rubbish. Serious question - you reckon there will be more or less supporter interaction when we unveil our new new badge?I was there from the start and the vote was every much a sham as the one that gave us the Lerner badge 1.0.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on July 22, 2023, 05:18:41 PMReported? That sounds like nonsense to find an excuse to do what they’ve done. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t give a shit if they have changed their minds but it’s funny how people have now decided the vote was a sham and the badge that was chosen is rubbish. Serious question - you reckon there will be more or less supporter interaction when we unveil our new new badge?Ask the people who attended the supporter meeting. I’m sure Woodhall has said that. We got two badges through “consultation” both with a star. Which suggests the star was unanimous. Was it?
You are pointing out the lack of supporter alignment as a problem on this so you tell me, end of this season when we see the new badge, do you reckon the fans will have more of a chance to get ‘aligned’ on it compared to the vote we had?I don’t remember you mentioning any of this at the time of the vote. Now you’ve decided it’s all wrong - the badge is wrong, the supporters were not aligned, the vote was fixed yada yada. It looks to me like you’re basically clawing around for some sort of retrospective reason to not use the one that was chosen. The new commercial director doesn’t like it. That’s fair enough, all this “OMG the badge is shit and the vote was flawed” stuff is absolute nonsense. I recall pretty much universal positivity for it at the time This guy certainly liked it. Quote from: Toronto Villa on March 22, 2023, 02:32:10 PMI really like the new badge and for me the direction of the lion is facing the correct way. To me facing left is looking back. And aside from a couple of notable bright spots in the past 40 years (FORTY), we need to start looking to forward. Onwards. upwards and to the right with Unai.