Gerrard In or Out?

[brontebilly]

Without getting too deeply into the in/out debate, why should Gerrard's name neccesarily attract top players? Are footballers really so shallow that they will turn down the chance of trophes and Europe just because another club's manager was a good player?

We've signed the world's 4th most expensive player because of the manager.

Who WAS the most expensive player but did nothing at Barca or Bayern and probably had very little choice to play regular football at a decent level other than joining us and will only stick with us if he thinks it might harm his chances of making the Brazilian WC squad if he went somewhere else.

Scored 1 in 3 and won the league and Euopean Cup. That's an interesting definition of nothing as people jump through contrived hoops to denigrate. We have the world's 4th most expensive player on our books, a Brazilian international of the flair kind, the sort we dreamed of in 2006 in the post-Ellis world. He's here because of the manager. An uncomfortable truth it seems.

I think the point with Coutinho is that he and Gerrard know each other personally, probably old mates in fact. Not so sure Gerrard is likely to attract top players he doesn't know on the strength of his name if we're still bumbling around outside the top half or even euro places. He may well have more 'mates' and contacts amonst the top players than Deano had and a fair few other managers though.
If Coutinho was doing the business at Barca we'd have had no chance anyway of course. That's not to say i'm not happy with him being here even just on loan and i hope we sign him as i think at his best he's better than Grealish, but i'm not convinced we will.

I think at his best Grealish was more influential on other players than Coutinho. Coutinho is obviously a talented player but seems to strike in certain moments. Large parts of games, some games in total, pass him by. That wasn't the case with our previous talisman.

Gerrard's profile I'm sure was key in getting likes of Digne and Coutinho in. But both were kind of in a sticky spot in their respective careers and clubs at the time. I'd agree with you in that I don't think his profile will sway most players from picking us over say Spurs or West Ham.

[Sexual Ealing]

It’s like banning ketchup - surely it’s absolutely irrelevant but yet it happens.  Conte and Gerrard both seem to have had a look at the sauce list in the canteen and decided it was part of the problem

And who can blame them? Dreadful stuff.

I agree - in a world where brown sauce exists, ketchup is an entirely pointless condiment. There's not a single situation where it's the most appropriate sauce.

Brown sauce only exists in the UK. It's the thing I miss the most when I'm in Mexico (along with proper cheddar cheese, Branston Pickle and salt & vinegar crisps. And cider. And beer that tastes of beer).

[Clark W Griswold]

It’s like banning ketchup - surely it’s absolutely irrelevant but yet it happens.  Conte and Gerrard both seem to have had a look at the sauce list in the canteen and decided it was part of the problem

And who can blame them? Dreadful stuff.

I agree - in a world where brown sauce exists, ketchup is an entirely pointless condiment. There's not a single situation where it's the most appropriate sauce.

Bollox to that! Ketchup every time. Brown sauce is brown because it has shit in it.

[Beard82]

It’s like banning ketchup - surely it’s absolutely irrelevant but yet it happens.  Conte and Gerrard both seem to have had a look at the sauce list in the canteen and decided it was part of the problem

And who can blame them? Dreadful stuff.

I agree - in a world where brown sauce exists, ketchup is an entirely pointless condiment. There's not a single situation where it's the most appropriate sauce.

Correct

[Beard82]

It’s like banning ketchup - surely it’s absolutely irrelevant but yet it happens.  Conte and Gerrard both seem to have had a look at the sauce list in the canteen and decided it was part of the problem

And who can blame them? Dreadful stuff.

I agree - in a world where brown sauce exists, ketchup is an entirely pointless condiment. There's not a single situation where it's the most appropriate sauce.

Bollox to that! Ketchup every time. Brown sauce is brown because it has shit in it.

Red sauce is only red because it’s got the blood of crushed dreams

[Risso]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

[RamboandBruno]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

[Risso]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

In my opinion that's just plain wrong. The fruitier, spicer flavour of brown perfectly complements a peppery sausage, while the acidity of tomato sauce cuts through the saltiness of smoked bacon.

[Brazilian Villain]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

I'm generally a "no sauce at all" person but when in the mood it would only ever be on a sausage sandwich and would be brown.

I am glad however that this thread has got to the nub of the issue.

[Beard82]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

I'm generally a "no sauce at all" person but when in the mood it would only ever be on a sausage sandwich and would be brown.

I am glad however that this thread has got to the nub of the issue.

Can we update the thread title

[Mister E]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

I'm generally a "no sauce at all" person but when in the mood it would only ever be on a sausage sandwich and would be brown.
I am glad however that this thread has got to the nub of the issue.

Sausages? - the only condiment is Dijon mustard. Occasionally, Heinz tomato ketchup.
Thank you, and goodnight!

[Clark W Griswold]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

In my opinion that's just plain wrong. The fruitier, spicer flavour of brown perfectly complements a peppery sausage, while the acidity of tomato sauce cuts through the saltiness of smoked bacon.

Fucking hell, hark at Gordon Ramsey here !

Anyway, tonight I dipped my pizza crusts in a ‘Bullseye’ standard BBQ sauce and it was pretty good. I had the ‘New York Steakhouse’ version a few weeks back and that was even better.

[Beard82]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

In my opinion that's just plain wrong. The fruitier, spicer flavour of brown perfectly complements a peppery sausage, while the acidity of tomato sauce cuts through the saltiness of smoked bacon.

New head off match day catering at VP

[RamboandBruno]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

In my opinion that's just plain wrong. The fruitier, spicer flavour of brown perfectly complements a peppery sausage, while the acidity of tomato sauce cuts through the saltiness of smoked bacon.

Brown on peppery sausage is just overkill, you need a plainer red to let the sausage flavour still dominate. Bit like Buendia and Coutinhio.
Can i just add whether its bacon or Sausage, has to be white bread.

[Beard82]

Red on bacon sandwiches, brown on sausage ones. A simple rule to live your life by.

Has to be the other way around Risso

In my opinion that's just plain wrong. The fruitier, spicer flavour of brown perfectly complements a peppery sausage, while the acidity of tomato sauce cuts through the saltiness of smoked bacon.

Brown on peppery sausage is just overkill, you need a plainer red to let the sausage flavour still dominate. Bit like Buendia and Coutinhio.
Can i just add whether its bacon or Sausage, has to be white bread.

Agreed - in for a penny in for a pound