Robin Olsen (The World's Number Two)

[Risso]

He was just as appalling away at Newcastle.

[paul_e]

He was just as appalling away at Newcastle.

I haven't seen a second of that game so no idea but it doesn't change the fact that if, as I expect, Emery came in and told Olsen he'd get a chance in the cup games, as he's done with other keepers in his career, then he really couldn't go back on that at the first opportunity. I do think he'll be reluctant to do it again though.

[Risso]

He was just as appalling away at Newcastle.

I haven't seen a second of that game so no idea but it doesn't change the fact that if, as I expect, Emery came in and told Olsen he'd get a chance in the cup games, as he's done with other keepers in his career, then he really couldn't go back on that at the first opportunity. I do think he'll be reluctant to do it again though.

Any manager worth his salt isn't going to be making promises like that after one game. He should have picked Martinez, didn't, and now we're out. I think Emery will do really well for us but that was a shit decision. I said so before the game and it didn't take a tactical genius to know it was a poor choice.

[paul_e]

He was just as appalling away at Newcastle.

I haven't seen a second of that game so no idea but it doesn't change the fact that if, as I expect, Emery came in and told Olsen he'd get a chance in the cup games, as he's done with other keepers in his career, then he really couldn't go back on that at the first opportunity. I do think he'll be reluctant to do it again though.

Any manager worth his salt isn't going to be making promises like that after one game. He should have picked Martinez, didn't, and now we're out. I think Emery will do really well for us but that was a shit decision. I said so before the game and it didn't take a tactical genius to know it was a poor choice.

Utter nonsense, many, many managers across all of the top leagues use a league keeper and cup keeper, it's pretty much the standard at this point (including our opponents tonight and almost every premier league team that played in this round). Any manager worth their salt would have a chat with most of the squad within a few days of arriving and get an idea of 'where they're at'. For a guy with 66 international caps the obvious answer is that he'd want to have a chance to play. He was shit, no one dsiputes that but moaning about giving him the game tonight is just lashing out.

[Risso]

Utter nonsense, many, many managers across all of the top leagues use a league keeper and cup keeper, it's pretty much the standard at this point (including our opponents tonight and almost every premier league team that played in this round). Any manager worth their salt would have a chat with most of the squad within a few days of arriving and get an idea of 'where they're at'. For a guy with 66 international caps the obvious answer is that he'd want to have a chance to play. He was shit, no one dsiputes that but moaning about giving him the game tonight is just lashing out.

You've just said you haven't watched the Newcastle game. I was there, and Olsen was every bit as atrocious as he was tonight, possibly even worse. At this settling in stage for Emery, when he's in the unususal position of having three games and then a big break, it should have been about busting a gut to win and getting some confidence into the team. We're not in Europe, and most of the squad is staying put. He's basically thrown away a game we could have won.

[Clampy]

He should have picked Martinez.

[paul_e]

Utter nonsense, many, many managers across all of the top leagues use a league keeper and cup keeper, it's pretty much the standard at this point (including our opponents tonight and almost every premier league team that played in this round). Any manager worth their salt would have a chat with most of the squad within a few days of arriving and get an idea of 'where they're at'. For a guy with 66 international caps the obvious answer is that he'd want to have a chance to play. He was shit, no one dsiputes that but moaning about giving him the game tonight is just lashing out.

You've just said you haven't watched the Newcastle game. I was there, and Olsen was every bit as atrocious as he was tonight, possibly even worse. At this settling in stage for Emery, when he's in the unususal position of having three games and then a big break, it should have been about busting a gut to win and getting some confidence into the team. We're not in Europe, and most of the squad is staying put. He's basically thrown away a game we could have won.

and what would you're sulking be targeted at if he'd picked Martinez and we'd lost? As I said almost every Premier League team that played in this round started their reserve keeper, it's something that is just done and Gerrard was an anomaly for not doing it in the last round (and that's probably a big part of why the players seemed to dislike him so much). Olsen was very poor tonight and may have been just as poor in other games but if Emery, as I expect, agreed to give him game time in the cups then so be it. I'm gutted we're out of the cup but I just don't see the point of getting so upset about it. When the draw was made did anyone expect us to go through given our cup record against these pricks?

[Risso]

If you pick your best team and lose, or a reasonable approximation of it, then you've given it your best shot and you have to look at the reasons why. Last season at Man U, we were robbed by piss poor officiating. Tonight though, he deliberately picked a keeper who is miles away from being as good as Martinez. Other teams can do what they like. Teams in Europe have to keep players fresh, and the drop off in quality isn't as pronounced as it is from Martinez to Olsen.

[OzVilla]

Maybe we have a bit of a gentleman's agreement with Argentina to rest Martinez in return for some leniency when they have some friendlies in future, maybe he just wanted to look at Olsen close up in a game situation.

Whatever it was its common practice so in football to play your 2nd string in the LC, we just needed a better 2nd string.

[Toronto Villa]

Martinez will play on Sunday

[OzVilla]

Oh yeah we wont be rested for PL games I agree, but LC is different it appears.  After all, Emi got his chance at Arsenal, and ultimately his move to us, from playing in the Cups.

[TonyD]

Criminal that Emi didn’t starts tonight.

Why?

[TonyD]

Martinez will play on Sunday

Fuckin hope so

[aj2k77]

Like a subbuteo goalie attached to a stick, unable to leave his goal line. The Swedish Mark Bunn, spends his time picking balls out of the net.

[frank black]

He was just as appalling away at Newcastle.

I haven't seen a second of that game so no idea but it doesn't change the fact that if, as I expect, Emery came in and told Olsen he'd get a chance in the cup games, as he's done with other keepers in his career, then he really couldn't go back on that at the first opportunity. I do think he'll be reluctant to do it again though.

Any manager worth his salt isn't going to be making promises like that after one game. He should have picked Martinez, didn't, and now we're out. I think Emery will do really well for us but that was a shit decision. I said so before the game and it didn't take a tactical genius to know it was a poor choice.

Utter nonsense, many, many managers across all of the top leagues use a league keeper and cup keeper, it's pretty much the standard at this point (including our opponents tonight and almost every premier league team that played in this round). Any manager worth their salt would have a chat with most of the squad within a few days of arriving and get an idea of 'where they're at'. For a guy with 66 international caps the obvious answer is that he'd want to have a chance to play. He was shit, no one dsiputes that but moaning about giving him the game tonight is just lashing out.

I just don’t get why on earth we signed him, he’s tried and failed at plenty of clubs before and been poor whenever I’ve watched him.

If a sub keeper is rubbish, you don’t stick him in goal for a knockout tournament that gets you into Europe, especially at Old Trafford. It wasn’t hard to call it pre match, I knew it and others expected it.. I’m really disappointed in Emery.