Brentford 2 v Aston Villa 1 Post Match Thread

[Stu82]

Hate that stat about not beating them since 1953. It's utterly meaningless if you've played about a dozen games against them in that time.

1953 to 2015 zero games

[Toronto Villa]

Post match comments - OS

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1477686877385863182?s=21

Thanks I've been waiting to hear what he said post match. I like the fact that he tells it straight. He knows what needs to be done but the million dollar question is will he be able to achieve it. I really really hope so.

The bit we all hope is that having played at a very level and to a very high intensity; as much as we might have thought he was a prick as a player, we’d all have loved it had he played for us, we want those types of players at the club to compete at the top of the table.

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

Should have won that, with all due respect to Brentford: we don't score enough goals to build on a lead, and it's getting boring now.

Apart from that, Happy New Year, everyone!

[Sexual Ealing]

Post match comments - OS

https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1477686877385863182?s=21

Thanks I've been waiting to hear what he said post match. I like the fact that he tells it straight. He knows what needs to be done but the million dollar question is will he be able to achieve it. I really really hope so.

The bit we all hope is that having played at a very level and to a very high intensity; as much as we might have thought he was a prick as a player, we’d all have loved it had he played for us, we want those types of players at the club to compete at the top of the table.

His playing career is meaningless. If it wasn't we'd have employed Chris Waddle.

[caster troy]

The word I’d use is ‘casual.’ Targett, Luiz and Traore in particular guilty of giving the ball away terribly when under no pressure. I’ll forgive Traore a little as he’s barely played and should have been retired on 60 mins. We need to be far more ruthless and put teams to the sword or we will keep getting punished.

We need three or four January signings if we are to salvage anything from this season, which is a tough ask. And no more Trezeguet please, I’d rather try Archer or Philogene-Bidace.

[ozzjim]

Simple things done badly cost us the game. Final ball, crossing, finishing.basic defending. We could have won that at a canter, but we switched off and let them in. Luiz and Hause were very poor. Targett poor. Interesting that the first time we don't have Mings and Young in the squad we make basic errors. A left back, holding mid (we need 2 midfielders and an attacking kid) and a top quality creative forward that scores a few, plays off the striker and knits the game are needed if we want to progress. ASAP.

[wittonwarrior]

Let’s start with the obvious trez your a bad cheat , no excuses.   Moving onto the starting 11. No Mings turned the game.  Hause was shown up for lack of match practice and sorry to say targett not premiership standard

Buendia, cash, ings, Ramsey and first half Bertie solid performances. Luis not bad in patches

We thought we were going to steam roll them well the team did and we got badly found out

Why was Ramsey subbed made no sense to me.

We go again tomorrow week utfv

[ChicagoLion]

It’s just about getting 40 points now and rebuild for next season.

[Mister E]

The word I’d use is ‘casual.’ Targett, Luiz and Traore in particular guilty of giving the ball away terribly when under no pressure. I’ll forgive Traore a little as he’s barely played and should have been retired on 60 mins. We need to be far more ruthless and put teams to the sword or we will keep getting punished... And no more Trezeguet please, I’d rather try Archer or Philogene-Bidace.

Damn right!

[pauliewalnuts]

For the first 40 minutes we were totally in charge. What’s more, I thought some of our passing was excellent.

Yeah we didn’t build on it and casually threw away three points but there are definite signs of improvement and a playing style starting to emerge.

I just think what we are seeing is evidence that some of these players just aren’t good enough for the way he wants us to play.

Chance to start to address that right now, though.

[Legion]

Totally.

[Meanwood Villa]

Hate that stat about not beating them since 1953. It's utterly meaningless if you've played about a dozen games against them in that time.

1953 to 2015 zero games

Agreed but we have played them eight times in recent seasons and won none. Four defeats in a row at their place when we finished above them in two of those seasons and probably will this season. They are undoubtedly a bogey team.

[Ads]

For the first 40 minutes we were totally in charge. What’s more, I thought some of our passing was excellent.

Yeah we didn’t build on it and casually threw away three points but there are definite signs of improvement and a playing style starting to emerge.

I just think what we are seeing is evidence that some of these players just aren’t good enough for the way he wants us to play.

Chance to start to address that right now, though.

Fair points Paulie.

I felt second half we still dominated the ball, territory and were the only side looking to play the game. Our decision making in the final third was poor though as was the execution of the final ball. We didn't play a percentage ball either.

[Pat McMahon]

Really disappointed by that. We were the better team and then defended poorly to let them back in. I haven’t seen any highlights yet but I thought Targett and Ramsey were at fault for the equaliser and after that we seemed to lose some belief.

Buendia was our best player over 90 minutes and I thought Ings looked sharp too. He and Watkins look much better without the other so choices need to be made there. The above two linked up well which gives me hope, but  whilst we had plenty of possession we didn’t work the keeper anywhere near enough.

This was a game where we should have dug in for a point at least and we seriously lack mental toughness. We ararely come from behind to win in the last few years and we regularly lose games we should at least draw. I hope Gerrard toughens us up in this respect because that pisses me up more than individual errors.

Talking of which, I think the second goal came from us losing possession when Konsa (I think) misplaced a header handing possession to one of their players. A few seconds later we had conceded.

A final point: the broadcasters must do a great job in boosting the atmosphere at Brentford. It was very quiet until the last 10 minutes and nothing like what they create on the box / radio.

Another final point: they have multiple screens below the roof inside the away end  which I’ve not seen anywhere else. They compensate for the big screen which is on the halfway line, and from my seat in the corner it was was surprisingly patchy.

[Chris Smith]

Shades of the Wolves game earlier in the season. Better team without being great but our own failings meant we ended up with nothing.

Main positive for me was the way Ings and Buendia linked up in the first half.