The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread

[yammers]

Sky Sports are reporting that an unnamed PL club with rivalled Newcastle’s bid for Diego Carlos, wonder who that is?

[Sexual Ealing]

I have it on good authority from an Argentinian friend that 'negrito' over there isn't exactly super-classy, but really doesn't sound like it does in English. That obviously speaks to structural racism issues in those countries, and I've read some points of view that say they wish people paid more attention to language like this, as it reflects those inequalities and lasting bigotries (especially in Brazil, which let's-not-forget abolished slavery in 1888!). But before issuing blanket condemnations of one culture based on my own I'd rather pause and ask if I'm missing something.

In short, I've read a bunch of people's views on either side on this subject, all from over there, and I'd rather listen to them rather than butting in.

Not that I want Suarez, I think he's not at all the front-foot high-energy forward for the system Gerrard's building. I think it would be a bit jobs-for-the-boys, not to mention a bit of a 'Steven's Liverpool Tribute Act' vibe which would make me be sick out of my eyes.

From listening to people here in Latin America, I make you right. Racism is (rightly, in my view) viewed differently in the UK. I could never condone what he said, but it's like the difference between me, a relatively educated middle-class white 43 year-old calling somebody a 'd*rkie', and your nan having done the same 20 years ago. Not right, but very different.

Also, a club that employed (and largely embraced) John Terry is in no position to take the moral high ground so soon afterwards.

[paul_e]

I have it on good authority from an Argentinian friend that 'negrito' over there isn't exactly super-classy, but really doesn't sound like it does in English. That obviously speaks to structural racism issues in those countries, and I've read some points of view that say they wish people paid more attention to language like this, as it reflects those inequalities and lasting bigotries (especially in Brazil, which let's-not-forget abolished slavery in 1888!). But before issuing blanket condemnations of one culture based on my own I'd rather pause and ask if I'm missing something.

In short, I've read a bunch of people's views on either side on this subject, all from over there, and I'd rather listen to them rather than butting in.

Not that I want Suarez, I think he's not at all the front-foot high-energy forward for the system Gerrard's building. I think it would be a bit jobs-for-the-boys, not to mention a bit of a 'Steven's Liverpool Tribute Act' vibe which would make me be sick out of my eyes.

Missed this post until I saw SE reply, souns like you've had similar feedback to me.

I agree with you completely on the suitability of Suarez to how we play. I can see 2 types of striker that would work depending on exactly how the wingers/10s are deployed. If we carry on as we have and keep them plying the roles that Buendia in particular has had then I agree that Watkins with improved finishing is what we need. The alternative is that we start pushing them to run beyond the striker and get him to play more of a pivot role in which case we need to be looking for someone more Firmino who is comfortable as a 9 or 10 and plays well as a sort of target man (but not the 'head on a stick' type that so many English teams have used in the past).

[itmustbe_it is!]

After the misery we have all enjoyed I’ll take being sick from the Liverpool love in to score goals, win a lot of games and get into Europe again. We can then find the new Suarez and other top players. The Steven G glow of "come join me" wears off if we are arsing around 10th again so let’s take some short term high quality fixes, possible vomit inducing Kop love in and get ourselves in a better spot to push on.

Yeah me too.I If you have a Gerrard, a Coutinho and a Suarez this year I think it makes you better placed to get the world class 24 year old you want next year

[ChicagoLion]

We are not signing Suarez.

It was lazy stupid journalism with not one credible source. Even those wankers at Sky have said its not happening.

[Ian.]

I suppose now we’ve signed Coutinho we will be linked with all the ex or existing Liverpool players and everyone will think it’s a possibility. Signing Coutinho has certainly changed the way people think about us.

[ASHTONVILLA]

Some Newcastle sites claiming they are trying to buy Targett off us.

Can't see us selling as we need decent cover for Digne - Unless Gerrard thinks Young is good enough and wants to bring in younger cover like Hickey who we were linked with. Would imagine we would ask for upwards of the £15m we paid for him if he does go.

[algy]

Some Newcastle sites claiming they are trying to buy Targett off us.

Can't see us selling as we need decent cover for Digne - Unless Gerrard thinks Young is good enough and wants to bring in younger cover like Hickey who we were linked with. Would imagine we would ask for upwards of the £15m we paid for him if he does go.

Yeah, could see Targett going - unfortunately for him, he was custom made for Grealish, but without Jack ... I'm not sure. However, I think that's only happen if we've got someone else lined up. Not sure it'll be Hickey though - he'd want regular first team football, surely?

[Toronto Villa]

why would Targett go? He's not a full international so that's not in jeopardy. He's a solid PL footballer at a club that hopefully starting next season will play a lot more games than we do now hopefully through Europe but also just by being more successful. He is in a superb spot right now to learn from a really excellent LB on the deficiencies in his game. He will continue to be a valuable part of our squad.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

why would Targett go? He's not a full international so that's not in jeopardy. He's a solid PL footballer at a club that hopefully starting next season will play a lot more games than we do now hopefully through Europe but also just by being more successful. He is in a superb spot right now to learn from a really excellent LB on the deficiencies in his game. He will continue to be a valuable part of our squad.

After being first choice for the past, what 2/3 seasons he may want first team football and a  he’d probably get a pay increase as well.

[Dave]

why would Targett go?

If Newcastle bid, we accept and they throw more money at him than we're paying then why wouldn't he?

[Pete3206]

A year in The Championship for ridiculous wages? Targett would be mad to turn it down if offered. No brainer as the alternative is the bench. He's not going to shift a fit Digne.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'd be sorry to see him go. Seems like a lovely lad.

[Beard82]

I'd be sorry to see him go. Seems like a lovely lad.

Agreed.  I think hes done well here by and large.

[Mister E]

Some Newcastle sites claiming they are trying to buy Targett off us.

Can't see us selling as we need decent cover for Digne - Unless Gerrard thinks Young is good enough and wants to bring in younger cover like Hickey who we were linked with. Would imagine we would ask for upwards of the £15m we paid for him if he does go.

Upward of £15m? Damn right!
He's improved much since he's been with us, and it's Noocastle.