Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[paul_e]

While there are questions regarding the quality of the Standard of opposition in Scotland, the same questions cant be asked about the teams in Europe in which Rangers have done well under Gerrard.

Especially for a third rate team according to many.

Are you sure about that?

They've got a few wins against teams from Holland, Belgium and Portugal which are decent but not massively impressive and then lost as soon as they've come across teams from stronger leagues (Leverkusen and lyon).

[paul_e]

The flip side could be that another manager might not have got them to where they are now and being just a top half team rather than a league winners team
After watching that interview with their coach and knowing McAlister is on the coaching staff, too, seems that Gerrard has a decent team with him.

but as monty says in the bold bit if someone call Steven McGerrard with a playing career of middling along with Dundee had done the exact same would his name come up in this conversation?

Flippin heck, Paul, if a manager got Dundee to win the SPL I’d be all for it 😂

My bad but to be clear the same record of managing rangers but with a playing career at Dundee instead of Liverpool.

[Mister E]

Vieira's done an initially-brilliant job at Palace from a very unpromising previous managerial position.

[Demitri_C]

Paolo sousa now being linked. No thanks

[paul_e]

Vieira's done an initially-brilliant job at Palace from a very unpromising previous managerial position.

True, but that's notable because it doesn't happen very often.

[murgsy]

I don't think it shows a lack of ambition at all.  It may show a lack judgment, but I'm pretty sure the owners and Purslow will think it's a bit of a coup and an ambitious appointment.

Potter may have been more of a sure bet to at least not implode, but would it have been any more ambitious?  Not for me.

Assuming Rodgers and Ten Hag would not have jumped ship (and I'm 100% convinced they wouldn't), it seems the short list was probably Gerrard, Martinez, Hasenhuttl and possible Favre or Fonseca (but these two were more fan talk than genuine links).  I'm not convinced Gerrard is demonstrably less ambitious than any of the others.  We all have our opinions on who we would have preferred and Gerrard wouldn't have been my choice.  But I think it's a bit of a leap to say it shows a massive lack of ambition.

Hopefully Gerrard will put us in a position where we can realistically attract the likes of Ten Hag, but we're miles off that at the moment.

Fair 'take'

[Ian.]

In terms of moving forward it looks like it's going to be Gerrard.

Not my favourite choice, but this is nothing to do with who he played for, media love ins, possibly losing him in a few years or who he currently manages.

On the upside he comes with a highly regarded coaching team and, pub league or not, had the wherewithall to manage a team that stopped Celtic winning a 10th title in a row.

More importantly for me, I understand his style of play is very similar to how Liverpool set up.  This is by some distance my favourite type of football in the modern era and I think it will suit most of our players very well.  Watkins, Ings and Bailey could be an excellent front three.  Obviously we'll need to upgrade at least one fullback and will need a better DM (which we'll need anyway however we chose to play) but otherwise I think we're well set up for it.

I'm confident Gerrard will conduct himself with dignity in the same way Terry did and I don't for one minute expect to see the Liverpool fawning so many are fearful of.

I've heard people talk about Gerrard as a player (including Peter Crouch on his podcast) and one common theme was he demanded incredibly high standards.  I expect our fitness and running stats to massively improve.  I know people scoff at the 'born winner' tag, but there's nothing wrong with having a manager with the fierce drive and ambition Gerrard has.  If it's backed up by an excellent coach (as it seems to be at the moment) then it could certainly be a recipe for success.

I remain a sceptical about his level of experience and of course this could go both ways.  But now it's almost certainly him I'm all in.  He has my 100% support and I'm very excited to see what we can do.

+1

Excellent post Chris.

[Villan82]

I haven't seen it discussed, but what do we make of the quotes about them wanting to make Villa a "challenging and intense environment for players"? Did they think things were a bit too laid back at BH?

[DBTW]

While there are questions regarding the quality of the Standard of opposition in Scotland, the same questions cant be asked about the teams in Europe in which Rangers have done well under Gerrard.

Especially for a third rate team according to many.

Are you sure about that?

They've got a few wins against teams from Holland, Belgium and Portugal which are decent but not massively impressive and then lost as soon as they've come across teams from stronger leagues (Leverkusen and lyon).

My meaning was that he can manage a so called poor standard side on a bigger and better stage than the SPL, and get results.

With a good side at Villa, i hope he can work

[paul_e]

I haven't seen it discussed, but what do we make of the quotes about them wanting to make Villa a "challenging and intense environment for players"? Did they think things were a bit too laid back at BH?

I think that's the sort of comment you see often when a team is looking for a new manager, not sure it means anything really.

[Clive W]

I think that the reasoning behind the possible Gerrard appointment is that he will probably bring with him what would appear to be a very impressive back room staff

I’ve just watched the video with his head coach and he was very impressive

I know it is only words in front of a camera, but if his words are backed up by his actions, and the rest of the staff are of a similar standing, then it could work well

[Monty]

So it's the staff now. Amazing the number of reasons for hiring Gerrard which aren't 'there's evidence he's a good manager.'

[WarszaVillan]

It'll probably all end in tears, but fuck it I'm going to get excited about it. Otherwise what's the point - moan that everything will be shite and wait to be proved right? If he can get the team on the front foot, win a couple of games and get some of the kids in the team things will start looking up again.

[Clive W]

So it's the staff now. Amazing the number of reasons for hiring Gerrard which aren't 'there's evidence he's a good manager.'

With the greatest respect I would suggest that you do not understand management

To be a good manager does not require you to be an expert in every aspect of the job

I have worked with a brilliant CEO who didn’t understand finance, but relied on me to provide the necessary input

Good management is making sure you have the required calibre of people around you

[Rudy Can't Fail]

While there are questions regarding the quality of the Standard of opposition in Scotland, the same questions cant be asked about the teams in Europe in which Rangers have done well under Gerrard.

Especially for a third rate team according to many.

Are you sure about that?

They've got a few wins against teams from Holland, Belgium and Portugal which are decent but not massively impressive and then lost as soon as they've come across teams from stronger leagues (Leverkusen and lyon).

My meaning was that he can manage a so called poor standard side on a bigger and better stage than the SPL, and get results.

With a good side at Villa, i hope he can work

Are we talking about the same Steven Gerrard who a few months back got knocked out of the Champions League at the first opportunity to Malmo?