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Offline Clive W

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2595 on: November 10, 2021, 01:50:49 PM »
I've chosen hope. I'm hoping that we abandon this ridiculous preoccupation with someone because they're famous and get someone in who is a proven manager.

So who would be your choice CD?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2596 on: November 10, 2021, 01:51:07 PM »


Are we talking about the same Steven Gerrard who a few months back got knocked out of the Champions League at the first opportunity to Malmo?
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To be fair mate, when was the last time we were in Europe? Not saying I want Gerrard but I think we are not the draw we perhaps think we are.

As I said earlier, don’t want this dragging out too much longer. Let’s just get some points on the board.

Maybe we should move to Scotland if we want to qualify for Europe every season. Seems pretty easy up there.

Maybe you're right, we're not the draw we think we are, that would explain appointing a half baked manager. No doubt there will be plenty in the press saying how Gerrard performed miracles to get us midtable as we were 16th in the table when he joined.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2597 on: November 10, 2021, 02:00:09 PM »
Something about everything that has happened over the last 4 -5 months hasn't sat right with me.  I think this is the same. We keep on being told how well run we are - but what has happened on the footballing side certainly hasn't been well ran since the start of the summer. 

This thread here I think is the closest I can get to putting my finger on it - https://twitter.com/Son_Lyme/status/1458415776084467716   (obviously written by someone more intelligent then me).

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"I think Mr Purslow knows that this Villa team will gel and fire - just like Smith said in his statement.  I think he knows too that even without a manager - when they do - they are more than likely too strong to go down.  The poor run of form was his opportunity to make a change.  With little to no risk.  Gerrard is plainly a high profile target - with less of a resume than either Favre or AVB.  That said, the way Gerrard plays is not too dissimilar from what Smith liked to do.  A pressing 433."

I think this whole thing isn't about finding a better manager - I about finding a more high profile one that gets us more attention. 

I don't think for a minute he thinks we will be any better position on the be the pitch - he just thinks the main plan can continue as normal with a high profile manager that will help the club get more attention.

Someone once hold me if somebody saying something makes you feel funny, its probably because you are being manipulated.  And I think this is it - effectively there just switching the face of Villa out for a more marketing-friendly one - and they need to do that because Joe was the face before

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2598 on: November 10, 2021, 02:00:48 PM »
Well the deal appears done now so let’s all hope this is inspired vs a massive unnecessary risk.

But I agree with sentiment that we need to know our place in the game today. Many of us think back to great days but in truth, as much as we are a massive club, that time is a long time ago. In modern terms we’re not as relevant as we think we are. We have to earn our way back there. I’m all for the board being ambitious and the money they’ve pumped so much in so this is also a gamble on their part. So for everyone and very much us, I hope this has a positive outcome.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2599 on: November 10, 2021, 02:05:34 PM »
I've chosen hope. I'm hoping that we abandon this ridiculous preoccupation with someone because they're famous and get someone in who is a proven manager.

So who would be your choice CD?

I don't entirely know, it isn't my job to know every top manager, though I would hope the person actually employed to make such an appointment would be doing meticulous research to get the best possible candidate rather than appointing someone because they're his mate.

However, of the names mentioned, I like the sound of ten Hag, Fonseca, Galtier, Emery and Favre.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2600 on: November 10, 2021, 02:05:41 PM »
Announce Gerrard

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2601 on: November 10, 2021, 02:07:20 PM »
If he does come here, at least it is from another big historic team. He’ll understand what it means and the pressures.


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« Reply #2602 on: November 10, 2021, 02:11:14 PM »
If he does come here, at least it is from another big historic team. He’ll understand what it means and the pressures.

Exactly, indeed, he comes from a bigger club than Little, Gregory, SGT and Deano and they all did fine.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2603 on: November 10, 2021, 02:11:47 PM »
I've chosen hope. I'm hoping that we abandon this ridiculous preoccupation with someone because they're famous and get someone in who is a proven manager.

So who would be your choice CD?

I don't entirely know, it isn't my job to know every top manager, though I would hope the person actually employed to make such an appointment would be doing meticulous research to get the best possible candidate rather than appointing someone because they're his mate.

However, of the names mentioned, I like the sound of ten Hag, Fonseca, Galtier, Emery and Favre.

As we saw with Newcastle and Emery managers aren’t always available or aren’t considered the right fit. Favre has a good record but for all that, he’s also been out of work a year. Why has he not been appointed already? We don’t know the reasons behind the scenes on so much of this. And CL managers don’t just want to give that up mid season irrespective of how much money is thrown at them. Erik ten Hag will have plenty of suitors in the summer. He doesn’t need to go anywhere now. As much as we want the best out there we are currently a struggling PL club, not in Europe and so not exactly the prize catch we might think we are.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2604 on: November 10, 2021, 02:16:00 PM »
Look, is my view on this appointment coloured by the fact that I've discovered my lease is being summarily ended, in 20 days, on my birthday? There is a chance.

I'm cheered by a few things. I like how upset it will make Rangers fans. I think he, Gerrard, clearly looks like he's trying to be a serious manager at the top, and hopefully that 'humble' mantra applies to him learning too, 'cause you're never too old or too good to learn (look at Moyes' renaissance). I maintain, however, that I think the hiring process is really very suboptimal, and at best we're going on minimal evidence.

Hoping we luck out on it. But it would, to an excessive degree, be luck.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2605 on: November 10, 2021, 02:17:15 PM »
Can I add, it appears he's massively reliant on Beale. If we don't get him at the same time, it will be a little pointless.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2606 on: November 10, 2021, 02:19:38 PM »
Edens and Sawiris haven't got to where they are by chance, and Edens clearly knows a thing or two about running a successful sporting team. Purslow isn't going to jeopardise his career by appointing Gerrard just because he's his 'friend', however true that is anyway. There's a very clear and obvious way that they seem to be setting up the club, and if they appoint Gerrard it will be because they see him as fitting in to those plans.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2607 on: November 10, 2021, 02:19:57 PM »
Look, is my view on this appointment coloured by the fact that I've discovered my lease is being summarily ended, in 20 days, on my birthday? There is a chance.

That's pretty shit, mate. Sorry to hear it.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2608 on: November 10, 2021, 02:22:01 PM »
I do think , however much I loved Deano , If you are trying to sign players , they would more likely sign for Gerrard than Dean Smith .

If he brings his coaching team with him , he will get my full support from day one as all of you on here will probably do and in three years we can attract the likes of an Ajax manager or the like.

If he really wants that Pool job , he is not going to fuck up here easily.

Wish him the best ( If its him)

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2609 on: November 10, 2021, 02:22:08 PM »
Edens and Sawiris haven't got to where they are by chance, and Edens clearly knows a thing or two about running a successful sporting team. Purslow isn't going to jeopardise his career by appointing Gerrard just because he's his 'friend', however true that is anyway. There's a very clear and obvious way that they seem to be setting up the club, and if they appoint Gerrard it will be because they see him as fitting in to those plans.

Yes I’d agree. It might not work, but it won’t be because Purslow wants a pal in.

 


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