Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[villa for life]

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If they don’t have someone ready to come in & start working with the team, the timing of the sacking (before the international break) is irrelevant, and any time up to near Christmas would have done just as well.
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Not really. Not if he’d lost another 5 games on the trot.

[Rory]

If people are already resenting SG for lapping up an Anfield reception that might need even happen I find that rather odd and I bet my entire life savings on the fans of Dean Smiths next club not having an issue with it.

People are apprehensive about the entire footballing world treating Aston Villa as second fiddle and a mere vehicle for the future career ambitions of a man who has thus far achieved very little in management. Nothing more, nothing less.

[SoccerHQ]

It's very hard to judge anything looking at their squad. It's a different world with loads of free transfers and a "big" signing of 6m. Doesn't seem to play the youth much though.

Yeah I think they've got some RB called Tavernier who basically was squad player at likes of Wigan down here and he scored 20 a season or something.

Get the feeling he'd also want to spunk 20m + on that Morelos guy who we were linked with about 18 months back.

We have good players here so I'd rather get them all motivated again and just see him sign half the Rangers 11 and then we realise 12 months later they're not good enough for where we want to go.

[sickbeggar]

It's would be on another level to Smith or indeed Houllier or DOL. He's Mr Liverpool. Not his fault, but we'd become the scousers 2nd team overnight and conversely hated by everyone else. Marketing man's dream and his first trip back would be wall to wall with articles in the papers along the lines of "I went to Scotland because I couldn't face Managing against Liverpool"

[amfy]

[quote author=amfy link=topic=62559.msg4071386#msg4071386 date=

If they don’t have someone ready to come in & start working with the team, the timing of the sacking (before the international break) is irrelevant, and any time up to near Christmas would have done just as well.

Not really. Not if he’d lost another 5 games on the trot.
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There’s no guarantee that would have happened, and no guarantee it won’t happen with the mystery man either.

I wouldn’t have expected him to stay longer than another 2 games if he kept losing, just questioning the wisdom of ‘the international break’ being the key time if no one is coming in, like it was ‘now or never’.

[Duncan Shaw]

Spurs had already appointed Conte by now, for comparison, after sacking Nuno.  We are still apparently working down a list.  I really thought they would have had someone lined up, else as Amfy says, the timing is just wasted.

[sickbeggar]

It's very hard to judge anything looking at their squad. It's a different world with loads of free transfers and a "big" signing of 6m. Doesn't seem to play the youth much though.

Yeah I think they've got some RB called Tavernier who basically was squad player at likes of Wigan down here and he scored 20 a season or something.

Get the feeling he'd also want to spunk 20m + on that Morelos guy who we were linked with about 18 months back.

We have good players here so I'd rather get them all motivated again and just see him sign half the Rangers 11 and then we realise 12 months later they're not good enough for where we want to go.

Aye, can't seem him returning to buy much with the Rangers squad. I thought Defoe had retired! It's an odd one because he's obviously used to having no money so is that his remit if he comes to us to punch above our weight? Hasenhuttl is another one you could class in that category. Or has he been told there's a big war chest to spend?

[Drummond]

But spurs had already interviewed him so the groundwork was done.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

If the board are demanding that the next Villa Manager is a young, former international player, comes from a smaller league, has little experience but one league title under his belt can we at least let it be Ruben Amorim rather than Slippy fuckin' Gee. Plus, winning the league with Sporting is far more demanding than with Rangers.

[ChicagoLion]

But spurs had already interviewed him so the groundwork was done.

The point is why were we not working on the replacement before firing Smith?

[paul_e]

In order to respond to Risso from the reflection thread where I didn’t want to continue a conversation about the merits of the timing of the sacking.....

The difference it would have made is that someone would be working with the team today towards the next fixture. Maybe there’ll be an appointment in the next day or so, & that would still give us 10 days or so for a new manager to begin to work with them, but if it drags on with no one in place, that’s 2 weeks where we could have re-grouped wasted.

If they don’t have someone ready to come in & start working with the team, the timing of the sacking (before the international break) is irrelevant, and any time up to near Christmas would have done just as well. In fact, right now feels like a time of drift because we (incl the players) don’t even have a game to place immediate focus on.

It isn’t a great thing to have been sounding people out behind a current managers back, but I do see other clubs appoint pretty quickly after a sacking.

The bedding in argument doesn't make sense when you have squads full of international players That doesn't stop the extra week from being useful though, it gives you more time to make a decision and lets some of the backroom team put together data for the new manager, which would be harder if they were focused on an upcoming game.

[Demitri_C]

Id love for the whole Gerrard stuff to be a giant swerve for someone like favre.

Wouldnt that be great?

[Ads]

There are cutbacks and there are crosses. Gerrard's Rangers are majority deep crosses and incompetent defending. I know - there's a Youtube video of every goal from their title winning season.

The fact is there is no evidence whatsoever that Gerrard deserves to manage the fourth richest club in England, currently in need of a crisis rebuild and a proper football identity imposed on the training pitch. None at all. Other than his name is Steven Gerrard, which I'm sure counts for some.

Like Man City's 2nd goal?

[Risso]

Spurs had already appointed Conte by now, for comparison, after sacking Nuno.  We are still apparently working down a list.  I really thought they would have had someone lined up, else as Amfy says, the timing is just wasted.

I guess they're thinking in slightly more longer terms than just the Brighton match though. I reckon they'll have somebody in this week. It's Tuesday morning, and we only got the news about Dean on Sunday!

[SoccerHQ]

It's would be on another level to Smith or indeed Houllier or DOL. He's Mr Liverpool. Not his fault, but we'd become the scousers 2nd team overnight and conversely hated by everyone else. Marketing man's dream and his first trip back would be wall to wall with articles in the papers along the lines of "I went to Scotland because I couldn't face Managing against Liverpool"

Yeah in ideal world I'd prefer to appoint him (as he's obviously number once choice with the board going from all media reports now) after we play Liverpool away but given our league position I don't think we can afford to wait that long otherwise we'll be firmly in bottom 3 by then.