Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

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The trouble with judging Gerrard tactically is that the step-up from Scotland to the English top ten is so enormous that you can't make any judgements. He likes to attack in numbers? Well yeah, he's at Rangers, that happens anyway. From what I've seen most of their goals come from some form of working it wide and getting yer crosses in, which really won't hack it in the same way in England. Of course, he'd also have better players.

Don't most goals come from set pieces and crosses. I'm sure I watched Pep beat Yanited on the weekend by putting a square cross and a deep cross into the mixer.

[Villan82]

Why do we always tend to go British? In the last 20 years i believe the only non brits we had were RDM, garde and houllier

Villa's a great club and very traditional. This is a strength but at times it is a weakness- especially with why we sort of have fallen behind since the likes of Wenger, rocked up at Arsenal in the mid 90s. When we have gone continental it hasn't worked out. I remember the 'frog' comments with Houllier and Garde and that dreadful secret santa video in 2015. You only have to look at some of the Scottish stuff too with McLeish and Lambert (even in this thread above somebody says he doesn't want a Scott as manager!). Why should it matter where a manager is from?  Judge people on their CV/competency not where they are from

To be fair I think the poster above says he doesn't want a manager from the Scottish leagues, rather than not wanting somebody who is Scottish. The inference being that the level is so low there.

Yes, true in this case, but you do see a lot of Scottish stuff about McLeish and Lambert- especially the whole 'dour Scott' trope. And now they're projecting Brtishness onto the Irish which always goes well!

[Keeno]

There's no alchemy to management. Right place, right face, right time is as good as it gets.

Moyes is a busted flush after the Man United experience, struggles with Sunderland, toils with West Ham first time, flops abroad. And now looks like Moyes of Everton vintage again. How?

Mourinho, one of the greats. Does well at Chelsea for a 2nd time, reasonably well at Man United, flops badly at Spurs.

As has been pointed out, you think you lessen your chances of risk by getting what appears to be the best quality. But unless you're picking managers off the very, very top shelf, how do you guarantee it?

I don't know if Gerrard will be any good. He has some qualities and he has some doubts. I could care less about Liverpool or what people think somebody else did 10 years ago and how thats in anyway relevant. He's a gamble, a big one. But to be honest, I've not come across a name who isn't.

Spot on.

[Monty]

There are cutbacks and there are crosses. Gerrard's Rangers are majority deep crosses and incompetent defending. I know - there's a Youtube video of every goal from their title winning season.

The fact is there is no evidence whatsoever that Gerrard deserves to manage the fourth richest club in England, currently in need of a crisis rebuild and a proper football identity imposed on the training pitch. None at all. Other than his name is Steven Gerrard, which I'm sure counts for some.

[Risso]

I was one who believed after Friday night that it was time for Dean to go, the team has looked so frail and off the pace particularly the last 3 games that the fear was that continuing into Brighton game would see the crowd turn and Dean 100% wouldn’t have deserved that reaction.

Gerrard wouldn’t be my choice but should he take over like all managers (obv not Allardyce or Pulis lol) I will get behind them totally and we move on - my worry with Gerrard is 3/4 games in we play Liverpool and if that turns into a crowd waving love in he will have lost some of our fans very quickly.  Add that to playing Man City in the same run and the circus that will be around Jack it’ll be an icky spell.

He'd obviously get a good reception from the Liverpool fans, but I'd hope he'd be intelligent enough to learn from Houllier's mistakes and leave it at a polite wave to the crowd. "Obviously I played my entire career at Liverpool and so it will always be special to me, but I'm Aston Villa manager now, and I'll be doing my best to get one over on Jurgen at the weekend. There's no room for sentiment in football and I'll be busting a gut to make sure we beat the Scouse twats."

There, not hard!

[sickbeggar]

It's very hard to judge anything looking at their squad. It's a different world with loads of free transfers and a "big" signing of 6m. Doesn't seem to play the youth much though.

[wince]

If we go for gerrard then that says all I need to know about our so called ambitions at the club.

[Gareth]

I was one who believed after Friday night that it was time for Dean to go, the team has looked so frail and off the pace particularly the last 3 games that the fear was that continuing into Brighton game would see the crowd turn and Dean 100% wouldn’t have deserved that reaction.

Gerrard wouldn’t be my choice but should he take over like all managers (obv not Allardyce or Pulis lol) I will get behind them totally and we move on - my worry with Gerrard is 3/4 games in we play Liverpool and if that turns into a crowd waving love in he will have lost some of our fans very quickly.  Add that to playing Man City in the same run and the circus that will be around Jack it’ll be an icky spell.

He'd obviously get a good reception from the Liverpool fans, but I'd hope he'd be intelligent enough to learn from Houllier's mistakes and leave it at a polite wave to the crowd. "Obviously I played my entire career at Liverpool and so it will always be special to me, but I'm Aston Villa manager now, and I'll be doing my best to get one over on Jurgen at the weekend. There's no room for sentiment in football and I'll be busting a gut to make sure we beat the Scouse twats."

There, not hard!

Lol

That’s a big leap of faith of someone in football being self aware enough to deal with that situation correctly

[Richard E]

I was one who believed after Friday night that it was time for Dean to go, the team has looked so frail and off the pace particularly the last 3 games that the fear was that continuing into Brighton game would see the crowd turn and Dean 100% wouldn’t have deserved that reaction.

Gerrard wouldn’t be my choice but should he take over like all managers (obv not Allardyce or Pulis lol) I will get behind them totally and we move on - my worry with Gerrard is 3/4 games in we play Liverpool and if that turns into a crowd waving love in he will have lost some of our fans very quickly.  Add that to playing Man City in the same run and the circus that will be around Jack it’ll be an icky spell.

He'd obviously get a good reception from the Liverpool fans, but I'd hope he'd be intelligent enough to learn from Houllier's mistakes and leave it at a polite wave to the crowd. "Obviously I played my entire career at Liverpool and so it will always be special to me, but I'm Aston Villa manager now, and I'll be doing my best to get one over on Jurgen at the weekend. There's no room for sentiment in football and I'll be busting a gut to make sure we beat the Scouse twats."

There, not hard!

"And if the truth be told I was a boyhood Everton supporter anyway."

[Scott Nielsen]

Maybe I'm misreading the app but has someone put £500 on Ralf Rangnick on Betfair Exchange? Hopefully someone with inside info!

Am I missing something? Rangnick has retired from management I thought. He's basically a DoF, no?

[Rudy65]

The point for me is we’re meant to be ambitious. 

Percy said the list would be.

This isn’t ambitious

This isn’t we’ll thought out

This is taking a huge gamble when we don’t need to

This says to me the Dream of becoming an elite club is just CP bullshit

How do you know who is on the list?  Why moan before we even know

[amfy]

In order to respond to Risso from the reflection thread where I didn’t want to continue a conversation about the merits of the timing of the sacking.....

The difference it would have made is that someone would be working with the team today towards the next fixture. Maybe there’ll be an appointment in the next day or so, & that would still give us 10 days or so for a new manager to begin to work with them, but if it drags on with no one in place, that’s 2 weeks where we could have re-grouped wasted.

If they don’t have someone ready to come in & start working with the team, the timing of the sacking (before the international break) is irrelevant, and any time up to near Christmas would have done just as well. In fact, right now feels like a time of drift because we (incl the players) don’t even have a game to place immediate focus on.

It isn’t a great thing to have been sounding people out behind a current managers back, but I do see other clubs appoint pretty quickly after a sacking.

[The_ads]

If people are already resenting SG for lapping up an Anfield reception that might need even happen I find that rather odd and I bet my entire life savings on the fans of Dean Smiths next club not having an issue with it.

[Monty]

Just to make it clear it's not about animosity to Gerrard - the Hjalmund link is underwhelming to a similar degree. I can't see what he's meant to have done at a comparable level to make him a candidate for our job. But he's a mate of Lange? Sure, why not. This process has a stench of amateurism right now.

[Goldenballs]

With our upcoming fixtures we have a few games we really need to pick up points from, then a very difficult run. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that we could go another 5 without a win with a new, relatively inexperienced manager.

A couple of games accepting shit results finding strongest team etc, a tough run against top teams, then all of a sudden we're really in the shit.