Spurs 2 Aston Villa 1 Post match thread.

[LukeJames]

I keep reading how Spurs were as bad as we were but to me they cut us wide open 5 or 6 times for clear cut chances. If you reverse the result and chances then I feel we'd all be saying how good we played.

[Lastfootstamper]

Take Son out of that game and it's nailed on last on MOTD and the watching world is hoping both sides lose.

[brontebilly]

Very disappointing. That was a win gifted to a Spurs team who should have been there for the taking. We were sloppy and lacked intensity, they outpressed us and were physically stronger, and hoofball was also probably not the best tactic against a Nuno team. I am not sure either that we have tackled Son once since we got back in the PL. He's the new Gullit.

Good point about Son. The amount of times we left him totally unmarked today was criminal. All those sparkly new coaches, three central sodding defenders and we still give him the freedom of the pitch.

Konsa is really uncomfortable playing on the right of a 3. Son made a mug of him all second half.

[Nunkin1965]

I wanted half time changes today as we've got a strong squad.
Something which we haven't had for a long time.

[pauliewalnuts]

Bad day at the office..anybody out there never had that ??
We are all passionate, but some of you are so angry I wonder why?
It’s Villa, the highs are amazing..deal with the off days.

Yep, and someone on here commented on how ape shit the Spurs fans were going on their forum. Some people really can't cope when we lose.

Don't want to get involved in the argument, because I love both you and Risso, but to be honest, yes, I agree, some people can't cope when we lose.

Because that's just the way football is. People expend extreme emotion on it - grown adults jump around like lunatics when their team score, some of them are miserable for days when we lose, some people manage to shrug it off and see the positives, others start to worry. My great grandfather was a bit of a violent nutter and used to come home and smash stuff up when we lost. It splits families up, it makes people hate strangers. All this mental stuff - it brings out all sort of differing emotions in people. I can't believe anyone is still surprised by that.

Look at any match thread you like from any season covered by this incarnation of this forum and you'll see a rollercoaster of emotions and reactions (and over-reactions).

I just am amazed anyone is surprised by it still.

[SoccerHQ]

I keep reading how Spurs were as bad as we were but to me they cut us wide open 5 or 6 times for clear cut chances. If you reverse the result and chances then I feel we'd all be saying how good we played.

Compare them to 3-4 years ago, they're miles off that standard now. They were alright today but it wasn't like we were under seige at any stage. Aside from first goal I can't remember Martinez making a save until he denied Son on the one on one just before we got it back to 1-1 so two serious shots at goal away to apparent top 6 standard team isn't that bad going.

Massively disappointing we couldn't seem to pass water through anytime we crossed halfway line. Our standard of football was really poor compared to last week when we created 3-4 really good moves in first hour. Our first decent move today was when we scored.

[caster troy]

Low on confidence? Under pressure? Order your Aston Villa fixture today! Guaranteed to sink to your level (or lower!) and gift you a much needed three points.

Some things never change. So frustrating.

Yeah, I bet United were saying that last week.

United had won their previous three league games before playing us, Spurs had lost three conceding 9 goals.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think we have to accept we're an inconsistent team that is not going to click all the time. You see it in individual matches - good half, bad half.

So long as we continue to build overall consistency then we'll be moving in the right direction. The positive point is that we have shown that when we are really on our game, we can be unplayable. Two fantastic results against decent sides followed by a 2-1 defeat away from home against a side who raised their game on recent performances is not really cause for despair.

DS is fucking infuriating at times, I agree, but it's not just him, it's the whole coaching staff. So long as they make these mistakes less and less frequently, then we'll be ok.

I do think we might have allowed our expectations to get ahead of us this season, though, we've sold our best player in decades and yes, we've spent the money well by the looks of it and have a much strengthened squad, but that sort of change takes a while to bed in.

[Nunkin1965]

Low on confidence? Under pressure? Order your Aston Villa fixture today! Guaranteed to sink to your level (or lower!) and gift you a much needed three points.

Some things never change. So frustrating.

Yeah, I bet United were saying that last week.

United had won their previous three league games before playing us, Spurs had lost three conceding 9 goals.

Is any side this season showing consistency though?
Everyone seems to be taking points off each other. That doesn't sound right I know but its a great opportunity for someone to gatecrash the top 6.

[SoccerHQ]

Low on confidence? Under pressure? Order your Aston Villa fixture today! Guaranteed to sink to your level (or lower!) and gift you a much needed three points.

Some things never change. So frustrating.

Yeah, I bet United were saying that last week.

United had won their previous three league games before playing us, Spurs had lost three conceding 9 goals.

Is any side this season showing consistency though?
Everyone seems to be taking points off each other. That doesn't sound right I know but its a great opportunity for someone to gatecrash the top 6.

Man. United look very unbalanced currently but they'll probably eventually settle on some sort of stable line up and go on 5-6 match winning run.

Can't see any of Man. City, Liverpool or Chelsea getting lower than 75 points. All three will get past 80 points I think.

Think they'll be a big gulf between 4th and 5th this season so that should actually help us a bit as will lower the general points range to finish top half. Certainly there's no way if we get 56 points like I think we did last season we'll be finishing bottom half.

[57 Villain]

We will be fine. Some tuning obviously.  I reckon sixth or seventh. Reasonable progress - if he will make changes before 61 minutes.

[cdbearsfan]

Disappointing, but it isn't the end of the world. We'd have taken two points from the last two games and we got three.

[Monty]

Disappointing, but it isn't the end of the world. We'd have taken two points from the last two games and we got three.

Exactly. We're a work in progress and this will happen, especially when you get a player like Son in the mood. Reckon we'd have probably taken three from three in fact, and actually took six. Still feeling good after the last three performances.

[john e]

What I can never understand and this goes for most managers not just ours is that when everyone can see that a formation or a particular game plan is not working after 20 minutes, and I mean it’s obvious to everyone including manager and coaches
Why do they have to wait till half-time to deal with it, And even then sometimes don’t

As soon as you know it’s not working change it, don’t wait until it’s too late
There’s probably a perfectly reasonable answer to this but one that I have never heard yet

[Clampy]

I think we have to accept we're an inconsistent team that is not going to click all the time. You see it in individual matches - good half, bad half.

So long as we continue to build overall consistency then we'll be moving in the right direction. The positive point is that we have shown that when we are really on our game, we can be unplayable. Two fantastic results against decent sides followed by a 2-1 defeat away from home against a side who raised their game on recent performances is not really cause for despair.

DS is fucking infuriating at times, I agree, but it's not just him, it's the whole coaching staff. So long as they make these mistakes less and less frequently, then we'll be ok.

I do think we might have allowed our expectations to get ahead of us this season, though, we've sold our best player in decades and yes, we've spent the money well by the looks of it and have a much strengthened squad, but that sort of change takes a while to bed in.

I think that's as good a comment I've read in a while. I didn't think we were great today at all. I think in some ways we need to start again now Joe has gone. We'll get there, we might only finish 10th but that's fine because long term, I think there's a lot to be optimistic about.