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Online kippaxvilla2

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4965 on: July 11, 2025, 12:02:34 PM »
If something does not happen to them, then no one will obey any rules ever going forward and I can see all sorts of breakaways forming.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4966 on: July 11, 2025, 12:13:02 PM »
I keep seeing references to 130 charges more recently.

Nothing is going to happen is it really?  They will delay and delay until they think  people wl be past caring and then they will find a way they can let them off with minimal punishment.  It stinks to be quite honest.

"They" is the other nineteen clubs in the Premier League. Why would "they" want to "find a way" to let Man City off with minimal punishment?

To save legal costs the Premier League doesn’t have?

Alos, damage to the PL brand. If a team who has won everything over passed 10-15 years has been found guilty of cheating* then where does that leave the PL as a competition and the 'best league in the world'.

*pending

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4967 on: July 11, 2025, 01:26:37 PM »
I keep seeing references to 130 charges more recently.

Nothing is going to happen is it really?  They will delay and delay until they think  people wl be past caring and then they will find a way they can let them off with minimal punishment.  It stinks to be quite honest.

"They" is the other nineteen clubs in the Premier League. Why would "they" want to "find a way" to let Man City off with minimal punishment?

To save legal costs the Premier League doesn’t have?

Alos, damage to the PL brand. If a team who has won everything over passed 10-15 years has been found guilty of cheating* then where does that leave the PL as a competition and the 'best league in the world'.

*pending
not doing anything will create the same impression.
Eventually even the Italians worked out you could not have the Juventus tail wagging the dog.
I keep coming back to the point that there are some very powerful clubs that will want to see Citeh punished appropriately.
If the PL do not get this right it moves the next break away closer.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4968 on: July 11, 2025, 03:57:31 PM »
But, it is the fact that the EPL will not win a legal marathon with Citeh, and the surprise is that some compromise has not yet been reached to give both parties a way out of what appears to be a stalemate.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4969 on: July 11, 2025, 05:03:25 PM »
I keep seeing references to 130 charges more recently.

Nothing is going to happen is it really?  They will delay and delay until they think  people wl be past caring and then they will find a way they can let them off with minimal punishment.  It stinks to be quite honest.

"They" is the other nineteen clubs in the Premier League. Why would "they" want to "find a way" to let Man City off with minimal punishment?

To save legal costs the Premier League doesn’t have?

Alos, damage to the PL brand. If a team who has won everything over passed 10-15 years has been found guilty of cheating* then where does that leave the PL as a competition and the 'best league in the world'.

*pending
not doing anything will create the same impression.
Eventually even the Italians worked out you could not have the Juventus tail wagging the dog.
I keep coming back to the point that there are some very powerful clubs that will want to see Citeh punished appropriately.
If the PL do not get this right it moves the next break away closer.


If it came to it (big if) and all the comps they won are void during the period in question would be much worse IMO.

Online ChicagoLion

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4970 on: July 11, 2025, 05:23:47 PM »
That won’t happen DB.
Fine
Transfer embargo
Points deduction
Any of the above or a combination therein.
Relegation is extremely unlikely as is voiding their wins.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4971 on: July 11, 2025, 05:30:57 PM »
I might be naive, but why have the other 18 teams in the premiership not demanded that the book is thrown at them?

Surely they have had an unfair advantage over all the others for years and seemingly continue to spend a lot of money, making them even harder to stop on the pitch, so why do they not voice their opinions?

Do they have fears that their own houses may get looked at?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4972 on: July 11, 2025, 05:33:36 PM »
That won’t happen DB.
Fine
Transfer embargo
Points deduction
Any of the above or a combination therein.
Relegation is extremely unlikely as is voiding their wins.

Yeah, agree for reasons mentioned. A slap on  the wrist in about 10 hrs when everyone has lost interest.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4973 on: July 11, 2025, 05:36:49 PM »
I keep seeing references to 130 charges more recently.

Nothing is going to happen is it really?  They will delay and delay until they think  people wl be past caring and then they will find a way they can let them off with minimal punishment.  It stinks to be quite honest.

"They" is the other nineteen clubs in the Premier League. Why would "they" want to "find a way" to let Man City off with minimal punishment?

To save legal costs the Premier League doesn’t have?
That would open the door for everyone to break the rules & then take the PL to court.

Offline Crown Hill

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4974 on: July 11, 2025, 05:50:23 PM »
I keep seeing references to 130 charges more recently.

Nothing is going to happen is it really?  They will delay and delay until they think  people wl be past caring and then they will find a way they can let them off with minimal punishment.  It stinks to be quite honest.

"They" is the other nineteen clubs in the Premier League. Why would "they" want to "find a way" to let Man City off with minimal punishment?

To save legal costs the Premier League doesn’t have?
That would open the door for everyone to break the rules & then take the PL to court.

Yep it’s called Lawfare

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4975 on: July 11, 2025, 07:38:15 PM »
I might be naive, but why have the other 18 teams in the premiership not demanded that the book is thrown at them?

Surely they have had an unfair advantage over all the others for years and seemingly continue to spend a lot of money, making them even harder to stop on the pitch, so why do they not voice their opinions?

Do they have fears that their own houses may get looked at?

They might have, still has to follow a legal process though.

But, it is the fact that the EPL will not win a legal marathon with Citeh, and the surprise is that some compromise has not yet been reached to give both parties a way out of what appears to be a stalemate.

I've said before but I think there will be a compromise announced fairly soon and it will come with a fine and a transfer ban, £300m+ net spend in 2025 certainly suggests they are planning around the possibility.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4976 on: July 11, 2025, 11:52:51 PM »
I keep seeing references to 130 charges more recently.

Nothing is going to happen is it really?  They will delay and delay until they think  people wl be past caring and then they will find a way they can let them off with minimal punishment.  It stinks to be quite honest.

"They" is the other nineteen clubs in the Premier League. Why would "they" want to "find a way" to let Man City off with minimal punishment?

Is it Dave or is it another body that will have a final say.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4977 on: July 14, 2025, 03:56:22 PM »
What's the deal with all of this now?

From what I can gather:

- We have to stay within the PSR rules (so have to sell someone to keep the income stream going?) [PSR]

- We have to stay within the UEFA rules, which means keeping our wages below a certain amount (which means we need to reduce our wage bill from what it is now?) [UEFA competition rules]

- We can't spend more on players than we bring in through transfer fees [UEFA penalty thing]

Is that right?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4978 on: July 14, 2025, 04:07:26 PM »
In theory, the woman's team sale and the CL plus other increased revenue from last season might have helped with the first bit and, barring the womans sale, also helping with the wages to revenue for the CL. However we have also been told we need to have a positive figure for our UEFA squad, the meaning of which is still to be fully explained.

Chelsea also have the same issue with the transfers  balance and have bought £200mil of players and sold 10mil so far, or £60mil with Madueke when that deal gets done.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4979 on: July 14, 2025, 05:47:11 PM »
What's the deal with all of this now?

From what I can gather:

- We have to stay within the PSR rules (so have to sell someone to keep the income stream going?) [PSR]

- We have to stay within the UEFA rules, which means keeping our wages below a certain amount (which means we need to reduce our wage bill from what it is now?) [UEFA competition rules]

- We can't spend more on players than we bring in through transfer fees [UEFA penalty thing]

Is that right?

No, there are also:

- not allowed to sign left handed players
- no gingers
- not allowed to do Twitter 'reveal' videos for new signings
- only allowed players with initial of first name from first half of the alphabet

 


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