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Offline The Edge

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4935 on: July 07, 2025, 11:06:36 AM »
Chelsea have made something like £55M from the Club World Cup.

Let’s hope it knackers out all the teams involved and they have shocking seasons.

pep has already said that he thinks his squad will struggle in december/jan on account of this competition and what it has done for their pre-season.

that's not him getting excuses in early, i think that is a genuine concern for his players welfare. and then a potentially really draining world cup in summer 2026.

There was nothing stopping him from sending the players who played through the end of last season off on holiday and using the likes of Grealish, Bobb, Reis, Khusanov, McAtee, Rodri etc.

They have big squads for this reason. The whiny little bell-end.
This Club World Cup bullshit is all about one thing. Money. I dont know but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a clause in the contract that says that they must include all their top players in the squad. They want the names that the Americans will know in order to sell match tickets and tv subscriptions and to satisfy the sponsors.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4936 on: July 07, 2025, 11:10:09 AM »
Chelsea have made something like £55M from the Club World Cup.

Let’s hope it knackers out all the teams involved and they have shocking seasons.

pep has already said that he thinks his squad will struggle in december/jan on account of this competition and what it has done for their pre-season.

that's not him getting excuses in early, i think that is a genuine concern for his players welfare. and then a potentially really draining world cup in summer 2026.

There was nothing stopping him from sending the players who played through the end of last season off on holiday and using the likes of Grealish, Bobb, Reis, Khusanov, McAtee, Rodri etc.

They have big squads for this reason. The whiny little bell-end.
This Club World Cup bullshit is all about one thing. Money. I dont know but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a clause in the contract that says that they must include all their top players in the squad. They want the names that the Americans will know in order to sell match tickets and tv subscriptions and to satisfy the sponsors.

We should arrange a pre season friendly tournament where our owners offer 100 million to the winners , we play Walsall over 2 legs

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4937 on: July 07, 2025, 11:17:54 AM »
Man City have arranged around three or four pre season friendlies.  They could easily have cancelled those as they are more or less match fit from this tournament. 

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4938 on: July 07, 2025, 11:21:22 AM »
What happens when we bottle it and lose?

I had this conversation with a Forest fan last week. What's stopping Villa, Newcastle, Forest etc, putting on a pre season tournament and the owners sticking x amount in each as prize money. I assume there will be a premier League and Uefa rule about recognised competitions, but it kind of made more sense than selling young players between each club to comply with rules.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4939 on: July 07, 2025, 11:26:53 AM »
There was nothing stopping him from sending the players who played through the end of last season off on holiday and using the likes of Grealish, Bobb, Reis, Khusanov, McAtee, Rodri etc.

They have big squads for this reason. The whiny little bell-end.

FIFA rules might have. Of course how "strongest" is defined is a legal question, but they had it in the rules that all clubs must field their strongest squads / strongest teams available or be sanctioned.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2025, 11:28:26 AM by Somniloquism »

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4940 on: July 07, 2025, 11:27:28 AM »
Similarly, with the women's team and any other assets...what's stopping the owners from gifting them back to the club and the club selling them again and so on and so forth.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4941 on: July 07, 2025, 11:30:53 AM »
What happens when we bottle it and lose?

I had this conversation with a Forest fan last week. What's stopping Villa, Newcastle, Forest etc, putting on a pre season tournament and the owners sticking x amount in each as prize money. I assume there will be a premier League and Uefa rule about recognised competitions, but it kind of made more sense than selling young players between each club to comply with rules.

£100m to the winner, £99m to the runner-up. £98m and £97m for third / fourth place.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4942 on: July 07, 2025, 11:42:52 AM »
What happens when we bottle it and lose?

I had this conversation with a Forest fan last week. What's stopping Villa, Newcastle, Forest etc, putting on a pre season tournament and the owners sticking x amount in each as prize money. I assume there will be a premier League and Uefa rule about recognised competitions, but it kind of made more sense than selling young players between each club to comply with rules.

£100m to the winner, £99m to the runner-up. £98m and £97m for third / fourth place.

Pretty much our thoughts. Plus a prize on entry fee. It must have already been looked at and discounted as a viable workaround though.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4943 on: July 07, 2025, 11:44:56 AM »
What happens when we bottle it and lose?

I had this conversation with a Forest fan last week. What's stopping Villa, Newcastle, Forest etc, putting on a pre season tournament and the owners sticking x amount in each as prize money. I assume there will be a premier League and Uefa rule about recognised competitions, but it kind of made more sense than selling young players between each club to comply with rules.
I think the issue is that this summer it seems we were the only ones with PSR issues….last summer there was clearly Chelsea, Everton, ourselves and a few others which led to transfers like Dobbin -> Irogbubam / Maatsen-> Kellyman to get done

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4944 on: July 07, 2025, 12:35:39 PM »
We wouldn't have been the only ones if Chelsea hadn't sold their hotels and women's team.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4945 on: July 07, 2025, 01:10:15 PM »
We wouldn't have been the only ones if Chelsea hadn't sold their hotels and women's team.

Indeed…thankfully we followed suit rather than selling our good players to comply.


Offline LeonW

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4946 on: July 07, 2025, 03:37:58 PM »
What happens when we bottle it and lose?

I had this conversation with a Forest fan last week. What's stopping Villa, Newcastle, Forest etc, putting on a pre season tournament and the owners sticking x amount in each as prize money. I assume there will be a premier League and Uefa rule about recognised competitions, but it kind of made more sense than selling young players between each club to comply with rules.

Interesting idea.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4947 on: July 08, 2025, 09:31:40 PM »
Arsenal fan said to me:

Didn't Villa just get fined? So it's OK when Villa do it but its not OK when Man City do it?

Tried to explain why admitting to doing 35mph in a 30 zone and accepting the fine is not the same as planning to circumvent income laws 30 odd times over many years via money laundering then denying it, withholding the evidence, refusing to cooperate and then going on the counter attack.

Was a waste of time.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4948 on: July 09, 2025, 01:14:32 AM »
Arsenal fan said to me:

Didn't Villa just get fined? So it's OK when Villa do it but its not OK when Man City do it?

Tried to explain why admitting to doing 35mph in a 30 zone and accepting the fine is not the same as planning to circumvent income laws 30 odd times over many years via money laundering then denying it, withholding the evidence, refusing to cooperate and then going on the counter attack.

Was a waste of time.

'Arsenal fan', enough said.

The only time I want to hear from them is when they're crying about how they would've won the league if only it ended in January.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4949 on: July 09, 2025, 01:23:58 AM »
Not just Postcode Lottery winners, but a team who abandoned their roots and fans to become Postcode Lottery winners, bribing and cheating their way into the top flight along the way. They're just Milton Keynes Dons with fewer scruples. Fuck what any of those Tarquin twats think.

 


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