FFP

[Percy McCarthy]

Does that help with wages or is PSR the one that deals with transfer fees?

It helps with PL PSR, but not with UEFA SCR.

Isn’t the UEFA calculation wages to turnover ratio ? So if you increase your turnover by selling an asset that would help this calculation wouldn’t it ?

UEFA don’t accept it as legit revenue.

Pure guesswork by me here, but maybe the best thing we could do would be to sell a stake in the women’s team (as we’re reportedly thinking of doing) and use it to pay off the deadwood in the squad. That would help next year’s SCR as well then, as long as it’s allowed.

[Percy McCarthy]

I was looking forward to Dave Powell on the Claret & Blue podcast as I think he’s the best explainer of PSR etc. Then I listened and he said the loophole on internal trading of assets has been closed, when in fact it hasn’t.

[Bosco81]

With the UEFA wages ratio the punishments is just a fine isn’t it, albeit a potentially large fine.

If you’re writing off players contracts presumably that cost goes against wages, so any cancelling of contracts is a bit pointless for the 24/25 figures, unless which seems unlikely we’ve got some wriggle room.

[Villafirst]

I see the farce regarding any decision on Man City's 115 charges is still continuing. Reports in the media saying their current transfer splurge tells you all you need to know....

[OCD]

Why might Palace get knocked out of Uefa competitions without kicking a ball?

[ozzjim]

I see the farce regarding any decision on Man City's 115 charges is still continuing. Reports in the media saying their current transfer splurge tells you all you need to know....

Man city won't get points and transfer bans until it suits one of the other sky 6. If they'd sorted it this season it might have helped us, Newcastle or Forest, which simply isn't reasonable.

[Rotterdam]

Why might Palace get knocked out of Uefa competitions without kicking a ball?

The ownership group at CPFC have a majority share in Lyon, who have also qualified for the Europa League.

[LeeS]

Why might Palace get knocked out of Uefa competitions without kicking a ball?

The ownership group at CPFC have a majority share in Lyon, who have also qualified for the Europa League.

It will be a real shame for Palace fans if they get denied. But, on the other hand, we won’t have to get battered by them in the knockout stages. Every cloud…

[ozzjim]

Why might Palace get knocked out of Uefa competitions without kicking a ball?

The ownership group at CPFC have a majority share in Lyon, who have also qualified for the Europa League.

It will be a real shame for Palace fans if they get denied. But, on the other hand, we won’t have to get battered by them in the knockout stages. Every cloud…

I imagine Textor will sell a proportion of his shares to the co owners and all will be fine.

[kippaxvilla2]

The Man City verdict is due imminently.  Rumours abound that the verdict will be Everton get docked ten points.

[kippaxvilla2]

Why might Palace get knocked out of Uefa competitions without kicking a ball?

The ownership group at CPFC have a majority share in Lyon, who have also qualified for the Europa League.

It will be a real shame for Palace fans if they get denied. But, on the other hand, we won’t have to get battered by them in the knockout stages. Every cloud…

I imagine Textor will sell a proportion of his shares to the co owners and all will be fine.

Yes but I don’t think it’s that simple.  According to uefa rules he should have done that by March for it not to be an issue.

[ozzjim]

The Man City verdict is due imminently.  Rumours abound that the verdict will be Everton get docked ten points.

They've spent a fortune since Jan (City) so Everton will get off light with 10 points. Maybe they'll do us and Forest too

[Bosco81]

Presumably Everton have got until the end of the month to try and sort it.

Not that they’ve got a great deal of saleable assets, Pickford, Braithwaite and then I’m struggling.

Pickford if Emi goes wouldn’t be the worst move, he’s a bit of a nut job but he might have the personality to play for a decent team like us.

[Beard82]

Apparently were the only ones at risk  This is from the Athletic:  https://x.com/TheAthleticFC/status/1930520211339325666 

Aston Villa (estimated pre-tax loss limit in 2024-25: £15m)

Villa’s last-day loss at Manchester United was a blow both on and off the field. Hopes of another run in the Champions League were left in tatters, and Villa will have to make do with eking what they can from the Europa League’s much smaller prize pot next season.

Problematically for Unai Emery’s men, UEFA’s financial rules don’t change dependent on which of its three competitions you play in. Villa will therefore have to comply with its squad cost ratio rule even as they generate less in European income; this rule is one Villa are already believed to have breached in 2023-24, when they were in the Conference League, and are in ongoing discussions with UEFA over a financial settlement.

UEFA also imposes lower loss limits on competing clubs, as well as requiring adjustments for any quirky player-swap deals between clubs like several Villa partook in last June, ostensibly to ensure domestic PSR compliance.

If there’s trouble abroad, then there’s plenty at home again, too. Villa have lost £206.2million pre-tax in the past two seasons, the highest deficit in the Premier League in that time. Helpfully, they actually disclose PSR-related costs in their accounts (albeit not the actual calculation), so we’re able to get a better idea for them than most clubs on how much they can deduct in terms of what football’s governing bodies deem ‘good’ costs.

Even with some chunky deductions in their PSR calculation, we project Villa can only lose £15million in 2024-25 and remain in line with Premier League rules.

Big sales of Moussa Diaby and Jhon Duran have helped, as has the £70million in Champions League prize money alongside whatever other income uplifts Villa saw from last season’s run to the quarter-finals, but their position still looks on a knife-edge, not least as they continued to spend in 2024-25 and committed hefty wages to January loanees including Marcus Rashford and Marco Asensio.

Villa will need to be active sellers this month once again.

[PeterWithesShin]

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