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[Dogtanian]

I'm not sure how it works legally anyway as far as loan transfers go. Surely, for us to be paying him wages directly he would have to be our employee. But I can't imagine they do it that way for a half-season loan.

It would make more sense to my limited mind for the player to remain an employee of his parent club and get paid as normal, but with the loaning club being charged for wages.

[ChicagoLion]

Well, we don't know that isn't what they did.

I know, that's what I'm saying - unless there's a reason the parent clubs didn't want to do it that way, or there's some accounting reason that I can't think of, why wouldn't we have done it that way?

Meaning the Rashford / Asensio deals perhaps didn't add stupid money to an inflated wage bill and were actually just a few million paid to Man Utd and PSG at the end of January.

The obvious way would be for the players club to still process the players payroll and Invoice the loanee for the contribution.
Much easier from and Admin and Tax perspective for everybody.

[LeeS]

Whichever way it is, we can’t have our cake and eat it. Presumably we have the same arrangement when we loan out players to other clubs. There will be an agreed way and everyone will follow it.

[LeeS]

There’s also the distinct possibility that UEFA foresaw this when they drafted their rule on wage bill ratios. So their definition of wages includes the portion of wages covered under any loan agreements.

[Tuscans]

🚨 The Premier League has failed in its bid to prevent clubs selling assets to sister companies in order to comply with its Profitability & Sustainability Rules (PSR).
@TimesSport

[OCD]

🚨 The Premier League has failed in its bid to prevent clubs selling assets to sister companies in order to comply with its Profitability & Sustainability Rules (PSR).
@TimesSport

Open season then.

[cdbearsfan]

Does that help with wages or is PSR the one that deals with transfer fees?

[Percy McCarthy]

Does that help with wages or is PSR the one that deals with transfer fees?

It helps with PL PSR, but not with UEFA SCR.

[andyh]

Sell the women’s team for £200m quick

[Bosco81]

Does that help with wages or is PSR the one that deals with transfer fees?

It helps with PL PSR, but not with UEFA SCR.

Isn’t the UEFA calculation wages to turnover ratio ? So if you increase your turnover by selling an asset that would help this calculation wouldn’t it ?

[kippaxvilla2]

No because UEFA have banned it already.

[cdbearsfan]

If the Premier League can ban it, surely UEFA can? If not, what's the point of Man City fighting it? Or was that just to try to avoid historical charges rather than trying to fiddle the figures in the future?

[kippaxvilla2]

The premier league have decided not to ban inter company sales of assets.  UEFA have already I think.

[paul_e]

The premier league have decided not to ban inter company sales of assets.  UEFA have already I think.

Yep, UEFA banned it a few years back.

[Percy McCarthy]

If the Premier League can ban it, surely UEFA can? If not, what's the point of Man City fighting it? Or was that just to try to avoid historical charges rather than trying to fiddle the figures in the future?

UEFA already have. The PL can, but have voted (twice now) not to.