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Offline Dogtanian

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4470 on: June 01, 2025, 09:43:36 PM »
And I bet his wife gets a free donut a la Mrs Brittas everytime she comes to Bodymoor.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4471 on: June 01, 2025, 09:48:00 PM »
A churro surely

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4472 on: June 02, 2025, 03:56:55 PM »
And how much of that upswing is the poor bugger getting? Barely a mill probably...we don't deserve you Uncle Unai.
I bet he’s getting a damn sight more than a million.

I meant in perf bonuses but yeah maybe he is.

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4473 on: June 03, 2025, 02:15:05 PM »
From Tanswell on Twitter:

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Severe doubts over Sverre Nypan. #AVFC had been confident of agreement & lots of work went in to convincing player & family. But delays from players' side has caused doubt. Philippe Coutinho contract set to be terminated. UEFA SCR more an issue than PSR.

This lines up with what I've been guessing at with some napkin maths recently.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4474 on: June 03, 2025, 02:17:49 PM »
Sounds more like it is him pissing about after a deal was agreed rather than us backing out because we are skint, as I feared. So not so bad.

If that's the case, hope he goes on to be the new Dan Crowley.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4475 on: June 03, 2025, 02:32:58 PM »
If he doesn't want to join sod him, I hope he's just a flash in the Nypan.


/i'llgetmecoat

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4476 on: June 03, 2025, 02:33:05 PM »
Sounds more like it is him pissing about after a deal was agreed rather than us backing out because we are skint, as I feared. So not so bad.

If that's the case, hope he goes on to be the new Dan Crowley.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4477 on: June 03, 2025, 04:00:13 PM »
If he doesn't want to join sod him, I hope he's just a flash in the Nypan.


/i'llgetmecoat

He will probably end up at Manure.  Out of the Nypan into the fire.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4478 on: June 03, 2025, 04:44:16 PM »
When I read that we’d effectively done the deal I was reminded of the scene in Jerry Maguire where the top QB’s dad says, “ I don’t sign contracts, but my word is like oak”

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4479 on: June 03, 2025, 05:32:28 PM »
If he doesn't want to join sod him, I hope he's just a flash in the Nypan.

It will still feel disappointing, we should have pushed for a cast iron guarantee that he'd sign for us.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4480 on: June 03, 2025, 06:03:18 PM »
If he doesn't want to join sod him, I hope he's just a flash in the Nypan.

It will still feel disappointing, we should have pushed for a cast iron guarantee that he'd sign for us.

And booked his induction whilst we were at it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4481 on: June 04, 2025, 08:49:15 AM »
Question on the whole transfer fees / wages thing. It seems pretty well established that it's our high wages that are causing issues rather than our ability to pay transfer fees so:

If Rashford's and Asensio's wages cost us say, £10m for the time we had them and we were paying most of that, presumably we could have structured that deal by paying Man Utd and PSG loan fees of £5m each (or whatever it needed to be to cover the wages), and they just continued paying them as normal? And that would have been far better for us in accounting terms as their wages don't get included on our wage bill.

If we had done it that way (a) it wouldn't have made any difference for Man Utd / PSG (for Man Utd it might even have been better having the cash injection?) (b) it's possible that we did do it that way and it wouldn't really have made any difference to how it was reported? We were still covering their wages, but in a more PSR-friendly way.

So it's quite possible that the massive wages that we added in January, we didn't actually add any extra wages apart from Malen and Garcia?

Offline Dogtanian

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4482 on: June 04, 2025, 08:53:15 AM »
Well, we don't know that isn't what they did.

We know the wages ratio for the previous season, and we know that will have included Champions League qualification bonuses which this season won't have. Revenue has increased too, and we know that in the summer we were doing deals specifically to bring the ratio down as it was mentioned as part of the Diaby thinking.

So I think they will have done whatever they could.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4483 on: June 04, 2025, 09:38:45 AM »
Well, we don't know that isn't what they did.

I know, that's what I'm saying - unless there's a reason the parent clubs didn't want to do it that way, or there's some accounting reason that I can't think of, why wouldn't we have done it that way?

Meaning the Rashford / Asensio deals perhaps didn't add stupid money to an inflated wage bill and were actually just a few million paid to Man Utd and PSG at the end of January.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4484 on: June 04, 2025, 09:51:39 AM »
Well, we don't know that isn't what they did.

I know, that's what I'm saying - unless there's a reason the parent clubs didn't want to do it that way, or there's some accounting reason that I can't think of, why wouldn't we have done it that way?

Meaning the Rashford / Asensio deals perhaps didn't add stupid money to an inflated wage bill and were actually just a few million paid to Man Utd and PSG at the end of January.

If the parent club is in a similar position to us regarding wages then I doubt they'd be interested but I'm not sure if that applies to any of the signings from January.

EDIT: Also maybe tax related legal issues for Asensio?

 


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