FFP

[Percy McCarthy]

So does anyone really know what is going on - is it £20m deficity - is it more?!  If it is £20m then surely selling the fringe players will suffice?!

I think that would suffice - the problem may be finding players who other clubs are in a rush to sign before June 30th.

[ozzjim]

So does anyone really know what is going on - is it £20m deficity - is it more?!  If it is £20m then surely selling the fringe players will suffice?!

I think that would suffice - the problem may be finding players who other clubs are in a rush to sign before June 30th.

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[PeterWithe]

I would guess we now have a list of clubs, to include Everton, Chelsea and Juventus, who we now collude with to trade fringe players to circumvent the dates.

[AV82EC]

So does anyone really know what is going on - is it £20m deficity - is it more?!  If it is £20m then surely selling the fringe players will suffice?!

I think that would suffice - the problem may be finding players who other clubs are in a rush to sign before June 30th.

I’d take an even more positive viewpoint in that we may not need to even do that. The fact is none of us really know but reading the tea leaves it would seem we’re pretty much ok for EPL PSR compliance on the 3 yr rolling average but maybe the need to sell or at least trim some fat from the squad would be driven by the UEFA SCR compliance position.

None of this should of course distract from the continual battle to keep improving our turnover. The drop off from ECL to EL will potentially be about £30-£40m so bridging that gap is going to be important to keep turnover levels up around the £375m/€400m level so we don’t end up in PSR/SCR problems in subsequent years.

[kippaxvilla2]

I know Spurs will get a big boost from CL revenue but I read the other day that because they finished 17th in the league, a lot of that will be offset by the loss in prize money?

[AV82EC]

I know Spurs will get a big boost from CL revenue but I read the other day that because they finished 17th in the league, a lot of that will be offset by the loss in prize money?

Spurs didn’t need to worry anyway as their commercial income is so vast they can “exist” as a financial big six entity without CL revenue.

[Somniloquism]

Estimates are 17th was 11.3m this year and 5th was 45m so they lost 33mill or so. But that is also about the max for winning Europa so didn't really lose out, just earnt it a different route.

[Drummond]

We got £164m, Spuds £130.

Full list :

Liverpool – £181.5m

Arsenal – £177.8m

Manchester City – £171.5m

Chelsea – £169.5m

Newcastle United – £165.8m

Aston Villa – £164.6m

Nottingham Forest – £157.5m

Brighton – £149.6m

Bournemouth – £147.6m

Brentford – £143m

Crystal Palace – £139.8m

Manchester United – £139.5m

Fulham – £139.3m

Everton – £135.2m

West Ham United – £134m

Tottenham Hotspur – £130.4m

Wolves – £125.8m

Leicester City – £119.2m

Ipswich Town – £112.9m

Southampton – £110.9m

[Matt C]

Having read more than I ever wished to on PSR it seems to me, perhaps wrongly, that we’re not in too bad shape. We need to take some action before end of June - as we would with or without CL - but it’s hardly a fire sale and the people running the club will have known it is coming so I’m sure there’s some contingencies in place. The nagging worry is it leaves us vulnerable to an offer for someone we don’t want to lose if it gets tight on the deadline.

The bigger challenge is the UEFA wages to turnover ratio rule where it seems we’re way off. Unless we can make more massive leaps in turnover seemingly the only way to comply there is reducing the wage bill.

[Dogtanian]

There's always going to be a lot of stuff in the media and social media with scare stories and exaggerated takes. It's the off-season, they need to keep their clicks going, and more people are going to read stuff that says we are screwed and will be selling even the chewing stuck to the bottom of the seats to make ends meet.

[paul_e]

I'm far from convince that we need to do much before the end of June, We've made about £100m more than we did last season, we've taken a big amortised cost off our liabilities with Diaby (and added profit on top), we've taken plenty of smaller ones as well, without adding enough to create problems for ourselves. Our wage bill will be about the same but with only 12 months not 13 on the books.

All accounted for I don't see where the costs would be being added to make us go more than £20m over our incoming for the year to create any issues.

[Dogtanian]

Exactly.

I personally have bought every single home program, twice, for the lovely stickers, and also seven full-priced shirts.

[TaxDodger]

I know an extremely basic amount about PSR and I don't think I have the mental capacity to try and work it out in detail, but if we're not broadly fine this year having sold two players for massive fees and generated the biggest revenue amount we ever have done and perhaps ever will do whilst not spending ludicrous amounts on new players, then we might as well give up.

[algy]

Reminds me of what could be a very good joke if I could think of a punchline.  'There was a Saudi, a Qatari and a Kuwaiti talking in the desert when one of them bumps into Philip Coutinho.....'

Coutinho falls the to ground, when immediately he’s covered by sand. This pile of sand gets bigger and bigger until it gets to the size of a small hill. “Shouldn’t we do something?” says the Kuwaiti. “Not at all” says the Qatari “I always bank with Coutts”

[Percy McCarthy]

Having read more than I ever wished to on PSR it seems to me, perhaps wrongly, that we’re not in too bad shape. We need to take some action before end of June - as we would with or without CL - but it’s hardly a fire sale and the people running the club will have known it is coming so I’m sure there’s some contingencies in place. The nagging worry is it leaves us vulnerable to an offer for someone we don’t want to lose if it gets tight on the deadline.

The bigger challenge is the UEFA wages to turnover ratio rule where it seems we’re way off. Unless we can make more massive leaps in turnover seemingly the only way to comply there is reducing the wage bill.

We’re not way off.