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Online LeeB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4080 on: March 10, 2025, 09:17:40 AM »
And Manure did offer lower then his worth.

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United felt they could land top target Branthwaite for £35million, plus another £8million in add-ons, because Everton would have to sell. They thought the Blues would need to raise cash in the transfer market before the June 30 cut-off point for last season’s accounts to avoid falling foul of the Premier League’s PSRs again.

Everton managed to get £10mil for Dobbin though which meant they cleared PSR and then didn't need to sell.

And the same reasoning for Forest to flaunt the rules when they needed to sell Johnson and were originally being offered a lot lower by clubs due to their needs. Still should have been done more than a few points though as they chose not to sell him rather then raise money other ways, especially after buying 20 odd players the same season.

We need to make more of the fact we shafted their move for Branthwaite with the Dobbin deal, then took Onana who they wanted, and finally took their best player on loan whilst they sit in 14th.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4081 on: March 10, 2025, 10:32:43 AM »
Isn't this summer the last of that and the first of the squad cost ratio crap that makes it even more complicated and even more weighted to the established commercial whales

No. They’re continuing with PSR.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4082 on: March 10, 2025, 06:01:21 PM »
Matt Maher of the Express and Star just quoted more than an £80m loss for 23/24 season.

So the accounts must be out there somewhere... just not Companies House yet.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2025, 06:11:43 PM by Concrete Tom »

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4083 on: March 10, 2025, 09:09:32 PM »
Matt Maher of the Express and Star just quoted more than an £80m loss for 23/24 season.

So the accounts must be out there somewhere... just not Companies House yet.

Back Pages Tonight might be worth a watch*.

*I always watch it anyway.

Edit: watched it. We still don’t exist.
« Last Edit: March 10, 2025, 10:57:57 PM by Percy McCarthy »

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4084 on: March 10, 2025, 09:11:17 PM »
Matt Maher of the Express and Star just quoted more than an £80m loss for 23/24 season.

So the accounts must be out there somewhere... just not Companies House yet.

Crikey.  Whilst we must push the boundaries that sounds like an unsustainable amount. That must include the sales of Luiz and Diaby too, right?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4085 on: March 10, 2025, 09:20:17 PM »
It can’t include Diaby can it?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4086 on: March 10, 2025, 09:20:24 PM »
Matt Maher of the Express and Star just quoted more than an £80m loss for 23/24 season.

So the accounts must be out there somewhere... just not Companies House yet.

Crikey.  Whilst we must push the boundaries that sounds like an unsustainable amount. That must include the sales of Luiz and Diaby too, right?

Not Diaby, no. He went this financial year.

Offline Dante Lavelli

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4087 on: March 10, 2025, 09:28:27 PM »
That’s a relief. 

It’s been done to death but the rules do not seem fair as we are generally a well run club and most our signings have come off, so where is the waste.

Offline caster troy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4088 on: March 10, 2025, 09:46:41 PM »
£80m? Wouldn’t that put us at a £200m loss over the three year period so in breach of PSR?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4089 on: March 10, 2025, 09:55:33 PM »
£80m? Wouldn’t that put us at a £200m loss over the three year period so in breach of PSR?

PSR is a separate calculation. We satisfied PSR by selling Luiz and Kellyman.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4090 on: March 11, 2025, 07:54:31 AM »
£80m? Wouldn’t that put us at a £200m loss over the three year period so in breach of PSR?

PSR is a separate calculation. We satisfied PSR by selling Luiz and Kellyman.

So these accounts are the formal version (HMRC) of what’s already been signed off (for PSR)?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4091 on: March 11, 2025, 08:25:32 AM »
£80m? Wouldn’t that put us at a £200m loss over the three year period so in breach of PSR?

PSR is a separate calculation. We satisfied PSR by selling Luiz and Kellyman.

So these accounts are the formal version (HMRC) of what’s already been signed off (for PSR)?

Yeah. You remember a few months ago when the Premier League said all clubs passed? There were supposed to be a couple/few in danger, but in the end all stayed within the rules.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4092 on: March 11, 2025, 08:31:46 AM »

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4093 on: March 11, 2025, 08:42:34 AM »
IF Mr. Heck leaves us when we get the £400 million turnover, how do the owners plan on increasing the turnover to £500 million+ over the following couple of seasons?

If the losses are correct, and we do not qualify for the Champions League next season, then this summer could see us selling a couple of our stars to try and balance the books.


Offline Goldenballs

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4094 on: March 11, 2025, 02:01:36 PM »
Just read we've got, or recently had, the 10th highest wage bill in Europe! A bit of a worry if we don't get champions league, surely?

Although I don't pretend to know anything about PSR.

 


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