FFP

[Dante Lavelli]

Are we better signing players on loan this summer and buying them next to avoid losses this year?

[Simon Page]

Could we consolidate all our players into one monthly player?

Between this and computerised ball technology in the other thread, I'm really hating football again. And it's not because I'm old cuz I'm not, honest.

[Smithy]

Are we better signing players on loan this summer and buying them next to avoid losses this year?

Depends if the loans have a fee, or not (and most do).  Reports are for example that Zaniolo's loan fee was £4.25m.

The immediate FFP impact of signing a £25m player on a 5-year contract, or loaning one for a season with a £5m fee, is identical.

[Baldy]

With talk of Leicester being deducted points next season, Everton possibly going into administration (automatic 9 points deduction) and Chelsea's woes the league table could look interesting next season before a ball is even kicked!!

[lovejoy]

Are we better signing players on loan this summer and buying them next to avoid losses this year?

Depends if the loans have a fee, or not (and most do).  Reports are for example that Zaniolo's loan fee was £4.25m.

The immediate FFP impact of signing a £25m player on a 5-year contract, or loaning one for a season with a £5m fee, is identical.

A loan gives flexibility for future years as stated above you arent locked in whereas there is no resale value.

[Smithy]

Are we better signing players on loan this summer and buying them next to avoid losses this year?

Depends if the loans have a fee, or not (and most do).  Reports are for example that Zaniolo's loan fee was £4.25m.

The immediate FFP impact of signing a £25m player on a 5-year contract, or loaning one for a season with a £5m fee, is identical.

A loan gives flexibility for future years as stated above you arent locked in whereas there is no resale value.

Oh yes, totally agree :-). I just thought the original question was related to our current position close to the FFP limit and what we could do "this summer".  In that context, a loan fee of £5m or 5 year contract for £25m player have the same FFP impact in the short term.

[PeterWithe]

The Guardian still going with the line that we will have to sell.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/18/aston-villa-back-in-big-time-on-their-own-merits

[Olneythelonely]

If we want to spend money, that’s true, right? Like most teams. I suppose Champions League qualification might have relieved some pressure on us to sell to balance the books.

[Nev]

It isn't Black Sabbath.

[Dogtanian]

The Guardian still going with the line that we will have to sell.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/18/aston-villa-back-in-big-time-on-their-own-merits

Again, it’s all assumptions based on the losses, without actually looking into the accounts or the FFP deductions. Nobody knows the real situation for this financial year except the club, who would be fucking stupid to leak it and undermine any negotiation if it were true.

They can’t credit little old Aston Villa getting into the top four and making it work, so they just assume it’s all going to backfire.

Like they assumed we’d ‘do a Fulham’ when we came up and spent money. And that playing in europe would fuck us in the league.

It’s just lazy journalism.

[Pete3206]

Speculation will be rife over our players attracting interest this summer, especially for our participants in the Euros and Copa America. They've got column inches to fill and they'll basically write anything on speculation and rumour for attention. Best ignored until something actually transpires.

[Rigadon]

The Guardian still going with the line that we will have to sell.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/may/18/aston-villa-back-in-big-time-on-their-own-merits

The tone of that article is fairly typical of the Guardian.  The political coverage is usually engaging and interesting, but I’m increasingly annoyed by their football coverage. 

[Steve67]

We are about to get over 50 mill in prize money for finishing 4th, is that not taken into account, given it is income?

[ChicagoLion]

We are about to get over 50 mill in prize money for finishing 4th, is that not taken into account, given it is income?

Of course it is, but not by some journalists though.

[wince]

It isn't Black Sabbath.

Some will get paranoid though