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Offline john2710

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1080 on: March 04, 2024, 09:34:51 PM »
The club must have planned for this, it's not like it will come as a surprise to them. The rules haven't suddenly changed & we've been caught out. The press will make dramatic statements like fire sales & Champions League qualification or financial meltdown but I have every confidence the club know exactly what they are doing.

Honestly? I'm not sure Heck has earned anything like that. Nor did Purslow.

It's not just Purslow & Heck. Do you think this is new news to Sawiris & Edens? I've been around long enough to see us sell star players & come out better for it. You either trust people at the top of the club or you don't. After the last 5 years I think the owners & the manager have earned our trust.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2024, 10:00:05 PM by john2710 »

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1081 on: March 04, 2024, 09:35:59 PM »
I wouldnt be opposed to selling tielesman.  Anything would be pure profit and u think he will ve around the 40-50m mark. Rather him than JJ or luiz

Online Tuscans

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1082 on: March 04, 2024, 09:36:45 PM »
From what I have read this is the second year of accounts and not the third. So on next years accounts we would of had to of made a profit of approximately £15 million, if that's what I have read is correct. So a better league finish this season would help and I think the owners can bank roll the club in the form of shares up to another £30 million?

Again all from the bits and bobs I have read.

Offline BC54 VFC

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1083 on: March 04, 2024, 09:37:16 PM »
I wouldnt be opposed to selling tielesman.  Anything would be pure profit and u think he will ve around the 40-50m mark. Rather him than JJ or luiz
We'd have to buy him first  ;)

Offline Villan82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1084 on: March 04, 2024, 09:39:52 PM »
I wouldnt be opposed to selling tielesman.  Anything would be pure profit and u think he will ve around the 40-50m mark. Rather him than JJ or luiz

What was I thinking?! Yes, that would be a better shout if we absolutely had to. Plus, if Buendia comes back even 3/4 the player he was we have a ready made replacement

And of course, I forgot about Duran. If Archer is coming back we could cash in on Duran?

One good thing, we have a quality squad. We could probably raise £50m from sales without damaging the mainstays of the squad.

Offline PeterWithe

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1085 on: March 04, 2024, 09:42:38 PM »
I'm not certain that even Chelsea would pay £50m for Youri.

Offline Gareth

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1086 on: March 04, 2024, 09:43:52 PM »
I'm not certain that even Chelsea would pay £50m for Youri.

Yup, 15 maybe…50 would be blatant money laundering :-)

Offline Grande Pablo

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1087 on: March 04, 2024, 09:55:48 PM »
The club aren't going to misrepresent the information with their 'expected' & 'on plan' statements - that would be pretty foolish.

I trust this as they state is part of the long term strategy & the spectre of FFP penalties is way off the mark.

Yes, VP expansion is going to have to be done by Nick Knowles & his trusted army of volunteers rather than what we were originally promised, but sustained success on the pitch has to take priority.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1088 on: March 04, 2024, 09:59:25 PM »
I'm off to SHA to find out what this really means.

Online Tuscans

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1089 on: March 04, 2024, 10:00:42 PM »
Just wait for Kieran Maguire and Swiss Ramble to give you the low down tomorrow.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1090 on: March 04, 2024, 10:08:37 PM »
We made a loss of £120, allowable losses £105; so we will be compliant with allowable expenditure and profit bought forward.
These are May 23 numbers so you have to look at transfer expenditure since then,
It does loook like we will need to sell a player this summer but would still be able to enter the market in the summer as a new player only costs the transfer value divided by the number of years of the contract.
It’s not great but it’s not disastrous either when you consider we are even more revenue generative this season.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1091 on: March 04, 2024, 10:10:56 PM »
If, and it still is a big 'if' at the moment, I am thinking it really is such a shame Kamara got injured. He is one I think we could cope without, would be pure profit, wasn't an Emery buy and I haven't got the affinity for him that I have for Luiz, Watkins, Bailey, Konsa, Martinez etc. Unless somebody would take a punt on him with the injury?!

Anyhow, just some out there thinking.

Unai has picked him whenever he's been available, I reckon he's our most important player these last two years but probably the one most likely to want to move on.

I think it's probably a case of the type of player that is easier to replace really.  I think we've got a few players who are a bit unique in some ways and would be very difficult to.replace.  Kamara is a quality defensive midfielder, but there are a lot of good players out there who can play that role.

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1092 on: March 04, 2024, 10:13:58 PM »
 ???
I'm off to SHA to find out what this really means.
Got migraine just reading the explanations

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1093 on: March 04, 2024, 10:14:36 PM »
The club aren't going to misrepresent the information with their 'expected' & 'on plan' statements - that would be pretty foolish.

I trust this as they state is part of the long term strategy & the spectre of FFP penalties is way off the mark.

Yes, VP expansion is going to have to be done by Nick Knowles & his trusted army of volunteers rather than what we were originally promised, but sustained success on the pitch has to take priority.

Ground investment money doesn’t come into the equation with FFP.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1094 on: March 04, 2024, 10:16:27 PM »
We made a loss of £120, allowable losses £105; so we will be compliant with allowable expenditure and profit bought forward.
These are May 23 numbers so you have to look at transfer expenditure since then,
It does loook like we will need to sell a player this summer but would still be able to enter the market in the summer as a new player only costs the transfer value divided by the number of years of the contract.
It’s not great but it’s not disastrous either when you consider we are even more revenue generative this season.

Allowable losses are 105m over three seasons. We’ve lost 120m in one, surely?

 


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