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Online Brend'Watkins

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1095 on: March 04, 2024, 10:18:11 PM »
Can’’t we offload a Chuckwanker type player for a decent fee to bring us into line?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1096 on: March 04, 2024, 10:20:43 PM »
We made a loss of £120, allowable losses £105; so we will be compliant with allowable expenditure and profit bought forward.
These are May 23 numbers so you have to look at transfer expenditure since then,
It does loook like we will need to sell a player this summer but would still be able to enter the market in the summer as a new player only costs the transfer value divided by the number of years of the contract.
It’s not great but it’s not disastrous either when you consider we are even more revenue generative this season.

Allowable losses are 105m over three seasons. We’ve lost 120m in one, surely?
£120 over 2 seasons if you count the season before profits of £300,000....isn't it?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1097 on: March 04, 2024, 10:21:24 PM »
So what was the loss the season before the £300k profit?

Offline Villan82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1098 on: March 04, 2024, 10:23:56 PM »
The club aren't going to misrepresent the information with their 'expected' & 'on plan' statements - that would be pretty foolish.

I trust this as they state is part of the long term strategy & the spectre of FFP penalties is way off the mark.

Yes, VP expansion is going to have to be done by Nick Knowles & his trusted army of volunteers rather than what we were originally promised, but sustained success on the pitch has to take priority.

Ha!

But seriously, the whole point was that we could expand the stadium as more or less a free hit in terms of its cost. My concern would be that by the time Heck pulls his finger out on this, in 2 or 3 years time, the rules will have been changed (a cynic would say it make sense if you want to make sure we are kept out of the top six) so that future infrastructure investment does become an issue that trips you on FFP. And wouldn't that be convenient.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1099 on: March 04, 2024, 10:26:36 PM »
So what was the loss the season before the £300k profit?
I'm not sure as I was under the impression the accounts from 21/22 were the accounts for the first year and the these accounts are the second of the 3 year cycle. That was down to Jacob Tanswell ( reporter ) saying a good finish to this season will help, assuming he meant this years accounts were the third year....I might have it wrong though.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1100 on: March 04, 2024, 10:26:41 PM »
Can’’t we offload a Chuckwanker type player for a decent fee to bring us into line?

If it’s a £105m loss across 3 years and we’ve done £120m in 1 I’d say no. I may be wrong though? Also who’s that player?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1101 on: March 04, 2024, 10:27:14 PM »
So the answer is start the new stand and sign the pinnacle of the worlds playing talent but, and here is the cunning bit, employ them as bricklayers rather than playing staff, so avoiding any FFP penalties as costs on the new stand don't count.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1102 on: March 04, 2024, 10:30:24 PM »
The statement from the club seems to be fairly relaxed about it all.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1103 on: March 04, 2024, 10:33:53 PM »
What does a new stadium give us that a new North Stand and down the line a new Witton Lane and the warehouse etc can't give us?

Villa Park is one of our unique selling points- do we want to be just any old club playing in a bland soulless bowl?

You would like to think management have a plan but then you see Chris Heck's efforts since he joined us and you would really have to wonder. Does CL qualification strengthen the club's case for the council to follow through with badly needed investment in public transport nearby or a new stadium site? Do the local council really care?

To think we could qualify for the CL this season and  maybe a European trophy and still have to sell a Luiz or Ramsey to balance the books. What's the point then really ...we will be hard pressed to keep Emery not to mind some key players if that's the case.

Jesus, how many times do people need to be told it’s nothing to do with the council?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1104 on: March 04, 2024, 10:34:23 PM »
The statement from the club seems to be fairly relaxed about it all.

Reads more like it’s trying to bury the lead to me.

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1105 on: March 04, 2024, 10:34:28 PM »
I'm off to SHA to find out what this really means.
They explained it a lot easier,we need to sell Watkins and Luiz, thought we were in trouble at one point

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1106 on: March 04, 2024, 10:36:24 PM »
What does a new stadium give us that a new North Stand and down the line a new Witton Lane and the warehouse etc can't give us?

Villa Park is one of our unique selling points- do we want to be just any old club playing in a bland soulless bowl?

You would like to think management have a plan but then you see Chris Heck's efforts since he joined us and you would really have to wonder. Does CL qualification strengthen the club's case for the council to follow through with badly needed investment in public transport nearby or a new stadium site? Do the local council really care?

To think we could qualify for the CL this season and  maybe a European trophy and still have to sell a Luiz or Ramsey to balance the books. What's the point then really ...we will be hard pressed to keep Emery not to mind some key players if that's the case.

Jesus, how many times do people need to be told it’s nothing to do with the council?
Think he meant the transport problems

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1107 on: March 04, 2024, 10:41:08 PM »

Allowable losses are 105m over three seasons. We’ve lost 120m in one, surely?

Less the allowable adjustments.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1108 on: March 04, 2024, 10:43:24 PM »
So what was the loss the season before the £300k profit?

£37m.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1109 on: March 04, 2024, 10:45:08 PM »
What does a new stadium give us that a new North Stand and down the line a new Witton Lane and the warehouse etc can't give us?

Villa Park is one of our unique selling points- do we want to be just any old club playing in a bland soulless bowl?

You would like to think management have a plan but then you see Chris Heck's efforts since he joined us and you would really have to wonder. Does CL qualification strengthen the club's case for the council to follow through with badly needed investment in public transport nearby or a new stadium site? Do the local council really care?

To think we could qualify for the CL this season and  maybe a European trophy and still have to sell a Luiz or Ramsey to balance the books. What's the point then really ...we will be hard pressed to keep Emery not to mind some key players if that's the case.

Jesus, how many times do people need to be told it’s nothing to do with the council?
Think he meant the transport problems

So do I.

 


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