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Offline PeterWithe

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1065 on: March 04, 2024, 09:12:00 PM »
Its no longer speculation, its on the Club website, we lost nearly £120m in year ending May 23. The journalists over the last few months were correct.

But what that really means, is to me, a closed book.

Offline BC54 VFC

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1066 on: March 04, 2024, 09:13:22 PM »
The wage bill went up over £1m a week. Bloody hell.
Which is pretty well what the UEFA 'The European Club Finance and Investment Landscape' document (Page 29) inferred, stating an increase of EUR61m, which at the current spot rate of 1.1686 is GBP52.2m.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1067 on: March 04, 2024, 09:15:25 PM »
Its no longer speculation, its on the Club website, we lost nearly £120m in year ending May 23. The journalists over the last few months were correct.

But what that really means, is to me, a closed book.

I don't think anyone has been disputing that, the bit people disagreed with was that we'd need to sell people before the end of June.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1068 on: March 04, 2024, 09:19:00 PM »
Its no longer speculation, its on the Club website, we lost nearly £120m in year ending May 23. The journalists over the last few months were correct.

But what that really means, is to me, a closed book.

I don't think anyone has been disputing that, the bit people disagreed with was that we'd need to sell people before the end of June.

Yes sorry that’s what I meant. Does this mean the damage is irreversible and selling players is the only option? It would be interesting to know what the thinking was if they knew the rules….

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1069 on: March 04, 2024, 09:19:32 PM »
I'm sure neither of us has the inclination to go and check but there were plenty of people saying a mix of 'we cant have lost that much' 'the owners wouldn't have done XYZ if we'd lost that much' etc, etc. It looks like we did.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1070 on: March 04, 2024, 09:20:31 PM »
To follow this up is that why Everton and Forest were penalised because the last chance to change things was January by selling players?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1071 on: March 04, 2024, 09:25:24 PM »
I'm sure neither of us has the inclination to go and check but there were plenty of people saying a mix of 'we cant have lost that much' 'the owners wouldn't have done XYZ if we'd lost that much' etc, etc. It looks like we did.

Oh, well that was a bit silly then. I guess it’s a case of selling Watkins and Luiz and picking up some better value players to try to compete. Maybe a break away Super League would be best for everyone if there really is little chance of competing with the clubs who can generate more revenue?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1072 on: March 04, 2024, 09:27:52 PM »
I’m interested how it all results in being within the P&S rules.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1073 on: March 04, 2024, 09:28:44 PM »
Oh, well that was a bit silly then. I guess it’s a case of selling Watkins and Luiz and picking up some better value players to try to compete. Maybe a break away Super League would be best for everyone if there really is little chance of competing with the clubs who can generate more revenue?

Please stop overreacting and posting ill-informed speculation.

Offline BC54 VFC

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1074 on: March 04, 2024, 09:29:32 PM »
I'm sure neither of us has the inclination to go and check but there were plenty of people saying a mix of 'we cant have lost that much' 'the owners wouldn't have done XYZ if we'd lost that much' etc, etc. It looks like we did.

Oh, well that was a bit silly then. I guess it’s a case of selling Watkins and Luiz and picking up some better value players to try to compete. Maybe a break away Super League would be best for everyone if there really is little chance of competing with the clubs who can generate more revenue?
I think you're panicking unnecessarily.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1075 on: March 04, 2024, 09:30:05 PM »
To follow this up is that why Everton and Forest were penalised because the last chance to change things was January by selling players?
No.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1076 on: March 04, 2024, 09:30:23 PM »
If, and it still is a big 'if' at the moment, I am thinking it really is such a shame Kamara got injured. He is one I think we could cope without, would be pure profit, wasn't an Emery buy and I haven't got the affinity for him that I have for Luiz, Watkins, Bailey, Konsa, Martinez etc. Unless somebody would take a punt on him with the injury?

He is one I could see Monchi/Emery replacing with a cheaper option from Spain if needs must.

Anyhow, just some out there thinking.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2024, 09:32:20 PM by Villan82 »

Offline Forge10

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1077 on: March 04, 2024, 09:30:51 PM »
Oh, well that was a bit silly then. I guess it’s a case of selling Watkins and Luiz and picking up some better value players to try to compete. Maybe a break away Super League would be best for everyone if there really is little chance of competing with the clubs who can generate more revenue?

Please stop overreacting and posting ill-informed speculation.

Calm down mate, I’m only asking as I don’t know how all this works? There are some proper stroppy sods on here…. 😂

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1078 on: March 04, 2024, 09:32:54 PM »
If, and it still is a big 'if' at the moment, I am thinking it really is such a shame Kamara got injured. He is one I think we could cope without, would be pure profit, wasn't an Emery buy and I haven't got the affinity for him that I have for Luiz, Watkins, Bailey, Konsa, Martinez etc. Unless somebody would take a punt on him with the injury?!

Anyhow, just some out there thinking.

Unai has picked him whenever he's been available, I reckon he's our most important player these last two years but probably the one most likely to want to move on.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1079 on: March 04, 2024, 09:33:39 PM »
Doomed Doomed. Doomed i tells ya 😃

 


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