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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #105 on: May 16, 2021, 03:35:56 PM »
If we are comparing ourselves to Leeds, then  they are where they are because of the manager. Take him away, and they’ll be a Brighton.

Us- the owners are investing so much that we will be ok to good regardless. There comes a time when you just have so many good players, that whoever is in charge will be ok. Ryan mason has got spurs 2-0 up v wolves, case in point.

If the owners stick with smith and invest heavily and then he underperforms, we could become next year’s Chelsea with the right mid season appointment.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #106 on: May 16, 2021, 03:37:18 PM »
Basically, don’t change for the sake of it, but be ruthless when the right manager is available, 

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #107 on: May 16, 2021, 03:39:24 PM »
Martinez 7.

Elmo 6.5
 honourable and honest. Prominent on ball in palace half. And offered himself at set plays as a threat

Targett 7
Mr consistent

Konsa 5.5
 good blocks but marked down for poor defending. Very lacking in closing down Zaha and several times caught out. Seems inconsistent at the moment. Have a couple of efforts off target from corners and that but can play better and will do.

Hause 6.5
Considering hadn't played and everything was the better of central defenders. Unlucky not to score and offers a threat and present in opposite box.
marked down for booking and goal conceded from Benteke but also headed away and blocked several palace balls in yo area and good efforts to him

McGinn 7
Lovely goal.played so well first half and at times was good second half from a pretty weak effort from team. Great goal and had another effort second half

Douglas Luiz 5.5
Simple game didn't see him as someone who continued any good play second half. Needed to up his level and tempo

Ramsey 5.5
Developing but lacking the quality should have scored. Needed to come off sooner.
But needs an experienced head around him to guide him as showed some decent movement and quality running and energy


El Ghazi 6.5
Brilliant finish, some great delivery and attacking wing play
Better of the two wide forwards

Traore 5
Ropey . Good set play delivery but lacking continued effort unlike Watkins. Continue to offer little to no defensive assistance and no where to be seen in stopping Mitchell get cross in for Benteke header. Frustrating and disappointing play again from a team perspective.
And rightfully subbed.

Watkins :7 Never stops trying brilliant assist to El Ghazi.
Unlucky no goal for his continued effort His running of the ball nd awareness of his team mates is ace. I love him as a player

Grealish: 6 inefficient and unable to offer much. Great to have more minutes thougu I said we've seen the peak of him earlier this season up to January. Jack was ruthlessly fouled by palace players when had the ball. One occasion at dying embers the ref didn't even give a foul which was shocking . Saw some glimpses of class. Hasn't lost that ability on the ball.

Davis - should have made contact with his head not his shoulder missing last chance saloon in his one touch.

Wesley - Gave the ball away for a Palace break. no time otherwise to make impact with only 3 touches.
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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #108 on: May 16, 2021, 03:57:07 PM »
4th bottom last 15 games in the form guide. Awful record
If that’s right it suggests we don’t have minor inconsistencies, but there is a deeper issue.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #109 on: May 16, 2021, 03:58:18 PM »
COVID-19. Jack Grealish. 2 large structural deficiencies in our season.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #110 on: May 16, 2021, 03:59:43 PM »
COVID-19. Jack Grealish. 2 large structural deficiencies in our season.

And being one of the few Premier League clubs who had to give their all until the final minute of last season didn't help.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #111 on: May 16, 2021, 04:01:20 PM »
So we should be raring to go next season, then!!

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #112 on: May 16, 2021, 04:03:13 PM »
COVID-19. Jack Grealish. 2 large structural deficiencies in our season.

There is no doubt those things hugely impacted our season.

And there is not a chance on earth Dean Smith is getting fired. But I’ve said this before. We don’t need to worry about that. If things don’t continue to improve next season he won’t be here. I’m sure the owners/Purslow love him but this is a results business. And when your owners are lashing out the kind of money these fellas have they won’t be content with mid table. They will want a much larger ROI. I have no doubt that’s been spelled out to our manager and staff.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #113 on: May 16, 2021, 04:34:00 PM »
If we start next season the way we are ending this season, Dean will be gone in October at the latest. Lovely guy but football is not about lovely guys, especially at this level.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #114 on: May 16, 2021, 04:37:35 PM »
Reading match reports on various media outlets and this one caught my eye "Traore showed an alarming lack of respect for possession straight after Villa's opener which seemed to set the tone for the remainder of the game" I think this is a very good point.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #115 on: May 16, 2021, 04:50:07 PM »
Which is why he should be a sub to come on when we are chasing a game, and nothing more

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2021, 04:51:26 PM »
2nd half horror show with dismal game management.

Whether Smith has £100 million, £200 million or £500 million to spend in the summer, it won't help his shortcomings as a Premier League manager.

He's done a great job to get us up, keep us up and put us into mid table. If we wish to seriously progress as a club, the owners and the board need to start having serious conversations.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #117 on: May 16, 2021, 04:53:42 PM »
That’s what’s so great, you know they will have, and we are in capable hands

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #118 on: May 16, 2021, 04:55:59 PM »
2nd half horror show with dismal game management.

Whether Smith has £100 million, £200,000 million or £500,000 million to spend in the summer, it won't help his shortcomings as a Premier League manager.

He's done a great job to get us up, keep us up and put us into mid table. If we wish to seriously progress as a club, the owners and the board need to start having serious conversations.
If he can't build a top team with five hundred thousand million to spend he definitely deserves the sack.

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Re: Crystal Palace 3-2 Utterly inept Aston Villa
« Reply #119 on: May 16, 2021, 04:56:14 PM »
From making the game look easy for most of the first half we were beyond inept in the second. No doubt the manager will blame the players and not himself for the collapse. We could have lost by more in the end. Really poor second half against a shit Palace side.

Root of our problem (as its been for years) is our inability to retain the ball under pressure.  We looked good in the first half because Palace didn't press us.  Hodgson changed it in the second half, Townsend,  Eze and Zaha kept the ball in our half, and we crumbled.  Read for the Burnley game.

We need more players that are comfortable on the ball under pressure, not ones who look like someone had tossed them a primed hand grenade.

 


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