Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Risso]

I'm probably way off on this, but Ramsey seems like part of the 'old' youth set up, before we started hoovering up all the next generation of wonderkids from all and sundry.

[paul_e]

I'm probably way off on this, but Ramsey seems like part of the 'old' youth set up, before we started hoovering up all the next generation of wonderkids from all and sundry.

Maybe, but that is the same setup that produced a £100m player.

All fair enough.  They probably don't wan't him anyway!

But I think we need to move away from hoping clubs will take our cast offs and being dissapointed when they tell us to f off.

I think cast offs is slightly unfair. I'm not sure there's anyone at the club other than Kalinic who deserves that tag which is why I said fringe players instead. These are players that Smith doesn't dislike but that just aren't good enough to play top half regularly. The big difference to the past as well is that the players we're talking about aren't sitting on massive contracts that price them out of moves, AEG and Hourihane this summer aren't anything like us trying to move on McCormack, N'zogbia, Ireland, etc.

[Brazilian Villain]

I think Aaron will overtake his big bro in time but JJ deserves more of a run as a starter in the first-team.

I don't mind him on 'The One Show' but he's had his chance....

In other news Norwich have signed Christos Tzolis, a Greek winger, for 10m. Not sure if this impacts the Cantwell situation.

[eamonn]

Isn't that Jacob's nickname - JJ? Or did I imagine/Eastie it ?!

[ozzjim]

It is his nickname.

[Toronto Villa]

Swapping a player who hasn't yet had the chance to fulfill his promise for an established player is Chelsea logic and I'd prefer not to go down that route if possible.

Heaven forbid we end up with Chelsea's success!

That would be dreadful. Screw the plan. I mean where would we put another two European cups, league titles and domestic trophies?

[Ger Regan]

I'm probably way off on this, but Ramsey seems like part of the 'old' youth set up, before we started hoovering up all the next generation of wonderkids from all and sundry.

True, but then so was chukwuemeka. And that other one as paul mentioned.

[paul_e]

I'm probably way off on this, but Ramsey seems like part of the 'old' youth set up, before we started hoovering up all the next generation of wonderkids from all and sundry.

True, but then so was chukwuemeka. And that other one as paul mentioned.

Archer as well and we all know Legion will have a fit if he isn't included in a chat about promising youngsters!

[rooboy316]

Really interesting discussion. With players like Ramsey though, I don't think they would represent value to us as a makeweight in any deal. Purely because we would rate him more highly than other teams, less aware of his potential. Players like AEG you potentially get a decent fee for, or in the best case scenario, have others value his output and stats more than the other mediocrity in between, that we are more aware of.

[Damo70]

Lots will still happen between now and the close of the window. Southampton will hold out as long as they need to and likely won’t sell at all unless they have a replacement lined up. But they have done a good job of acknowledging their place in the food chain when you consider who they have sold in the past decade. At the right price JWP will be sold and they will do fine afterwards.

I don't know if you mean this to come accross as it reads, but if that was a City fan talking about us I'd be calling him a arrogant monumental bellend.  Hopefully I've taken it the wrong way.

I totally got what he meant in his post. Southampton have long been 'a selling club' but they have still stayed competitive. They also replace and recruit very well. They remind me of Wimbledon back in the day who for years bought low and sold high whist still being competitive in the Premier League. But as Wimbledon found to their cost the plan isn't totally foolproof over a long period of time.

[Jon Crofts]

I think we'll eventually get JWP late in this window.

[Drummond]

Norwich have just made a signing for left wing. About their 8th of the window. I reckon we'll get Cantwell too.

[Stu]

Richard O'Kelly has left apparently??

[Dr Butler]

Richard O'Kelly has left apparently??

yep he has left...

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[Villa Lew]

I think we'll eventually get JWP late in this window.

The Beeb are saying that Spurs are expected to make a bid for him as well as us.