Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Toronto Villa]

If there is any truth in this rumour regarding Winks it's hardly the kind of signing that will convice Jack Grealish to think that the club is thinking big in their attempt to keep him.

I don’t know Dave. Whether we agree with it or not he’s an England international. We are not in the market for players who are at the top of the game so in order to progress buying astutely in who might be legitimately available isn’t the worst way to go. I think that’s what we did with Ollie last year and this summer Buendia. Convincing Jack to stay won’t just happen with a flashy signing and I’d rather we built with him in mind but an eye to the future should he decide to go.

[Smithy]

If there is any truth in this rumour regarding Winks it's hardly the kind of signing that will convice Jack Grealish to think that the club is thinking big in their attempt to keep him.

Maybe, maybe not, but it feels about right given where we are in our development. He's played International football, he's played Champions League football, he's used to competing at the top end of the league, he's 25, and English. 

I still think we are probably a year at least from signing players who good enough to 'expect' champions league football, so he's in that bracket of players who are gettable given where we are today.  He's not going to be someone who sells a lot of shirts, or who add thousands to the season ticket waiting list, but I think he'd strengthen the squad, particularly if Hourihane is going. He'd be competing with (and probably replacing) Nakamba I suspect.

[SamTheMouse]

He's shit. An Ashley Westwood clone. I bet he can point like a champ.

[dave.woodhall]

When did we become too good to have a 25 year old England international as a squad player?

[Toronto Villa]

When did we become too good to have a 25 year old England international as a squad player?

That’s what I’m wondering too.

[Smithy]

I guess we've really moved on as a club when we can easily dismiss 25-year-old England Internationals with Champions League experience as "shit".

[ADVILLAFAN]

He's shit. An Ashley Westwood clone. I bet he can point like a champ.

Exactly what I think of him. In fact, I would say a poor man's Westwood

[SoccerHQ]

When did we become too good to have a 25 year old England international as a squad player?

He's already a Squad player at Spurs and would probably get a fair amount of games for them next season given they'll be playing 3-5-2.

Interesting we seem to be after so many of these types of midfielder....when we already have plenty of continuity 8 types at the club already...I mean McGinn, Sanson and Luiz plays ahead of a DM for Brazil so there's three who'll all be expecting to be starting every week next season. Also got Ramsey in the mix although suspect he's going to be loaned out.

Interesting Billy Gilmour signing on loan for Norwich, surprised we didn't offer Ramsey to them when signing Buendia as feels like that sort of loan move could potentially kick him on a bit.

Would've thought either an excellent DM or goalscoring number 10 to replace Barkley would be key targets but guess latter is Smith Rowe.

[Dante Lavelli]

He’s also 25 so his best years in front of him. He’s not going to cost a fortune. He seems to play the Douglas Luiz role in front of the back four, good range of passing. We will lose Douglas for the Olympics so he won’t be available for the start of the season, and Nakamba for African Cup of Nations in January.

Valid points.  We do need cover, or better still a starter, for DM.
I’m not sure we should be shopping for ‘cover’ players from the Big 6 though.  I just feel that they will see it as a step down if they’re not picked every week. 

[Dave]

I guess we've really moved on as a club when we can easily dismiss 25-year-old England Internationals with Champions League experience as "shit".

Then again, lots of people said that about Tom Cleverley who ticks all those boxes, at a time when we were nothing like as good as we are now.

[SoccerHQ]

Is Winks really a DM, Hojiberg played that role for Spurs last season? I just see Winks as same position as Ward Prowse. And Sanson, McGinn, Ramsey and even Luiz.

[rob_bridge]

I don’t believe the Winks rumours but I’m also not going to judge any signings based exclusively on their last club.

Is anyone doing that, though? He's at Spurs, it's not like he plays for Drogheda.

My only problem with Winks is that he's shit.

Well they would judge him based on what they saw at Spurs. So yes. Just like people judged Lingard while at Man U.

I don’t rate him. I would hope that there are better targets we are after that the press don’t know about. After all we were about to sign Dwight McNeill a month ago for £40m. But I’m also saying I don’t know what he’d be like not playing at Spurs and playing somewhere else. He might not be the player we are basing all of our opinions on

He fits the profile - Spuds way under achieved last season but wouldn't place all blame on him. A good coach would make him a much better player IMO

[Dante Lavelli]

Is Winks really a DM, Hojiberg played that role for Spurs last season? I just see Winks as same position as Ward Prowse. And Sanson, McGinn, Ramsey and even Luiz.

I think that is potentially his problem, a jack of all trades but master of none.  Not imposing enough to be a DM, lacks the tricks to be an 10 and hasn’t the stamina to make an impact box-to-box.

[Damo70]

Winks isn't exactly going to make season ticket sales soar but he is a decent Premier League player and is an ideal age for a signing on a decent length contract. Buying players from Arsenal and Spurs shows the ambition we have these days.

[cdbearsfan]

Not really, we signed Alan Hutton and Stuart Taylor when we were rubbish.