Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[andyh]

I agree TV, Smith has bucket loads of credit in the bank regarding transfers and we should support his judgement.

But, Harry bloody Winks.

[pauliewalnuts]

I don’t believe the Winks rumours but I’m also not going to judge any signings based exclusively on their last club.

Is anyone doing that, though? He's at Spurs, it's not like he plays for Drogheda.

My only problem with Winks is that he's shit.

[Richard E]

And he has a stupid name.

[johnny from donny]

I don’t believe the Winks rumours but I’m also not going to judge any signings based exclusively on their last club.

Is anyone doing that, though? He's at Spurs, it's not like he plays for Drogheda.

My only problem with Winks is that he's shit.

I think the next 2 sentences in TV's post are important for context. Lingard was at Manchester United  (not Drogheda) but the manager didn't rate/didn't know how to use him.
That said,  I don't want Winks either.  I don't think he's better than what we already have.

[Toronto Villa]

I don’t believe the Winks rumours but I’m also not going to judge any signings based exclusively on their last club.

Is anyone doing that, though? He's at Spurs, it's not like he plays for Drogheda.

My only problem with Winks is that he's shit.

Well they would judge him based on what they saw at Spurs. So yes. Just like people judged Lingard while at Man U.

I don’t rate him. I would hope that there are better targets we are after that the press don’t know about. After all we were about to sign Dwight McNeill a month ago for £40m. But I’m also saying I don’t know what he’d be like not playing at Spurs and playing somewhere else. He might not be the player we are basing all of our opinions on

[SamTheMouse]

To be fair to him, Higher State of Consciousness was a proper banger.

[Holy Trinity]

Well I wonder if he was at the belfry because he was having talks... I'll reserve judgement until he's kicked a ball for us if it's true. South of 20 mil and it would be a good deal I guess

[FatSam]

To be fair to him, Higher State of Consciousness was a proper banger.

Like

[eamonn]

To be fair to him, Higher State of Consciousness was a proper banger.

Absolutely.

Harry Winks does have the bang of a Dean Smith player about him (I know, I know, Dean "doesn't" sign the players).

[LeeB]

To be fair to him, Higher State of Consciousness was a proper banger.

Absolutely.

Harry Winks does have the bang of a Dean Smith player about him (I know, I know, Dean "doesn't" sign the players).

12 months with us and Kalvin Phillips would never get another England cap.

[VILLA MOLE]

To be fair to him, Higher State of Consciousness was a proper banger.

Absolutely.

Harry Winks does have the bang of a Dean Smith player about him (I know, I know, Dean "doesn't" sign the players).

where would we play him though?

[dave shelley]

If there is any truth in this rumour regarding Winks it's hardly the kind of signing that will convice Jack Grealish to think that the club is thinking big in their attempt to keep him.

[Smithy]

Seems like I'm in the minority, but I actually quite like Harry Winks as a player. He's pretty good at the job he does, breaking things up, keeping the ball and moving it quickly to the better players around him.  I'd worry about who he would play instead of, but maybe it's time to stop thinking that way and start thinking about it being a squad game and having options on the bench that don't weaken the starting 11 at all.  I'm guessing with Hojberg at Spurs now he's seen as surplus to requirements there?  I think we can do better if we're buying another central midfielder (Ward-Prowse would be my pick), but I certainly wouldn't be disappointed to see him sign.

[OCD]

Smells of an agent trying to get a move for his client.

[Toronto Villa]

He’s also 25 so his best years in front of him. He’s not going to cost a fortune. He seems to play the Douglas Luiz role in front of the back four, good range of passing. We will lose Douglas for the Olympics so he won’t be available for the start of the season, and Nakamba for African Cup of Nations in January.