Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[CT]

Tammy being linked again in the Mirror. Bid expected imminently.

Chelsea assuming the brace position.

Are we swooping?

[TonyD]

Tammy doesn’t do it for me.  Great when we needed his goals in the championship but not for me in the PL.  Watkins is a better player.  I’d rather bring Brad Young in. 

[cdbearsfan]

Too early to be bringing in Brad Young, let him go on loan. Abraham would be a great addition.

[N'ZMAV]

Tammy Abraham is a midtable striker.

we're a mid-table side at the moment. so it seems to fit well.

[Monty]

The team that won the league had a top scorer from midfield of 13 or something and mostly played no striker, but they scored goals from all over. Werner's movement is the best possible, and his finishing the worst, but at least that movement makes chances for others. Tammy contributes nothing in terms of top level movement and isn't much better in front of goal, and represents Evertonesque value for money.

Tammy Abraham is a midtable striker.

we're a mid-table side at the moment. so it seems to fit well.

If we really have ambitions not to be than we shouldn't be going in for such lazy, wheel-spinning, overvalued BigClub castoff type signings. I loved Tammy when he was with us, but he's got 9 goals for Palace written all over him.

[Ads]

Tammy scored double what Werner managed and in less games last season. Just because the baddie out of Raiders of the Lost Ark played the offside King, does not make him midtable.

He scored 18 in 47 the season before in a side that finished 4th.

Midtable? Bizarre.

Im sorry, you don't spend 70m on a player that is a human jigsaw in the box and justify it by running.

[Chris Smith]

Too early to be bringing in Brad Young, let him go on loan. Abraham would be a great addition.

Surely he’ll want to to a club where he’ll be first choice. That’s unlikely to happen with us.

[Monty]

Under Lampard they couldn't defend but they made a quite unbelievable number of chances. We need everyone to contribute, especially if Jack goes, and Tammy ain't that.

Also that Indiana Jones baddie turned their season around with a mental unbeaten run and won the Champions League, so I'm guessing he knows what he's doing. Werner was overpriced but he contributed more than Tammy even without scoring, which I'd class as pretty fucking damning.

[OCD]

I would like us to buy someone who’s at home playing in any of the front 3 positions and rotate in game. I think that’s how we get round having a quality back-up striker to Watkins whilst getting games too. Can Abraham’s play wide and do the defensive work? Too easy for the media to say he’s the replacement for Grealish.

[SoccerHQ]

Just seen Spurs are in talks to sign Jules Kounde from Sevilla.

We were tentatively linked to him in summer 2019. Since then he's gone to Spain and been excellent. Not quite sure if he'll scale up in premier league as he's pretty small but Spurs are terrible at the back so need some CBs.

What's interesting for me if this happens is Spurs ended last season in terrible state, have no manager and yet could still  sign a first choice player from CL club who's started playing for France now.

In last decade they've signed many first choice players from Ajax and of course signed Van Der Vaart at time we were getting in Stephen Ireland...

Wonder how many years away we are from doing that....signing first choice players from CL clubs in the best leagues? Hopefully not too long as that's the final step for me as then we would be confident of finishing top 6 and winning some stuff.

[SamTheMouse]

I think I'm with Monty on this one. Tammy is a good player, sure, but there's a touch of the Darren Bent about him. Modern strikers need to be like Ollie - they need to run and press. He just seems an unimaginative choice. Like Tuanzebe, I suspect if he hadn't already played for us, nobody would be giving him a second thought.

[ASHTONVILLA]

I would like us to buy someone who’s at home playing in any of the front 3 positions and rotate in game. I think that’s how we get round having a quality back-up striker to Watkins whilst getting games too. Can Abraham’s play wide and do the defensive work? Too easy for the media to say he’s the replacement for Grealish.

The young Argentine we have been linked with fits that bill.

I must have a different recollection of Tammy to some here, as I always thought he worked his nuts off in the Championship. I think Watkins could play wide if we had them both on the pitch and we wanted to change things up in a game.

[SoccerHQ]

Could well be, but harvesting as many good young players as possible sounds like a decent recipe for succes. We need 2 forwards we can rely on.

I think Ollie would score more goals playing 5 or 6 games less, which sounds counter intuitive, but his style of play is so exhausting, I think he would benefit. I don't believe in luck, so 7 times hitting the woodwork, some fatigue in there?

He might be better yes, but he’s used to doing it.  He barely missed a minute for Brentford over a 44 game season.  Pretty sure Smith has referenced this work rate and stamina as a reason for buying him too.  If it was a normal human being I’d definitely agree but it seems to be a strong part of Watkins’ game so the normal insurance policy may not be as critical.

I actually thought he hit the wall at xmas. The Chelsea and Man. United games he was late to so many 50/50s and was struggling to make much of an impact with runs so think the two week break we then had did him the world of good and he was much sharper.

If Brendan Rodgers was our manager I certianly think he'd be a major target but just don't see DS shifting too much from what he does so a struggle to see us paying that much for another striker, it wll be more development type who would start on the bench.

Unless plan is to play 4-2-2-2 at times given we seem to be looking at a few Southampton players and that's one way to get Tammy and Ollie upfront and then Buendia and Jack floating behind.

[Monty]

To go from Jack wide to Ollie with Tammy as a 9 is a big step back, and there's no dressing that up. That £40m needs to go elsewhere, and I agree with STM about that touch of the modern-day Darren Bent about him.

[SoccerHQ]

And was bombed out of the squad as soon as they started doing well. He misses 5 out of 6 good chances and his workrate is poor.

Didn't they finish 3rd under Lampard? He was first choice for them that season and also scored a couple in champions league.

Of course he has his limitations but bit harsh to say he's only mid table. I'm surprised West Ham haven't put in a bid as he'd be ideal for them particularly for their extra euro games and they don't have any striker back up beyond Antonio really.