Summer Transfer Thread and Gustavo Cisneros Type Rumours.

[Steve67]

I wonder if Emre Can fancies another crack at the Prem?

[ChicagoLion]

I think two managers put him on the bench because the club had lashed out massive amounts of money on players they had to play. I think Tammy is a super player for any club in our position looking to go from mid table to a top 6 position. He works hard, he scores all the goals Ollie can score. He's a slightly different player but in no way is he a step down. He might not be good enough for a top 4 side but we should in now way turning our nose up at a player of his ability.

That's certainly not true for Lampard. I think it's important to look at how his record stacks up. After going back to Chelsea h started the season confident and in form with 9 in 9 across all competitions. Since then he's got 21 in 70 including a hattrick against Luton and a couple against Barnsley. I don't mind him as player and I totally get the appeal but I don't think he's the right player to compliment what we have and I think if it wasn't for how well he did for us in the championship people would be much more objective about his limitations.

I agree, I was never convinced that he is a Top 6 striker, I love his effort and attitude but he lacks first touch and guile. I think Ollie has lots more potential.
He would not e the worst signing but not the ideal player for what we need.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

Re Tammy Abraham, I'm puzzled by people saying he is decent but not the kind of quality we need.

Chelsea are 3rd in the PL, he is their joint top scorer with 12 goals from 32 league and cup games (Werner, 12 from 50 and Giroud, 11 from 31). That in a season when he has not been given a consistent run in the side.

He is 23, so still capable of improvement, and can play anywhere across a front three or as a loan striker - though that is not his best role and he has talked about being a wide attacker rather than the central striker.

He knows the club and set-up and importantly the coaches know what he is like to work with and he seems a good fit with many of the players.

Genuine question - how many other strikers tick as many boxes as that for £40m-ish? I would do the deal today and have him introduced to the fans on Sunday before the game! UTV

[Monty]

The fact that this whole 'he's a wide player really' thing is contradicted by the evidence of our own eyes? I just don't get it. I'd like us to move beyond sentimentality please, we'll need to if we're going to actually challenge for Europe.

Some would call it an obvious signing. I'd call it lazy.

[LeeB]

I reckon he could play in a back three as well.

[VILLA MOLE]

I wonder if Emre Can fancies another crack at the Prem?

Just checked because I thought he would be in his 30s , he is only 27 seems to have been around ages

[sickbeggar]

What about this Willock character? I mean Arsenal have already sold us their best goalkeeper by mistake and anything that annoys Newcastle fans and Nan's hair must be goer

[Russ aka Big Nose]

The fact that this whole 'he's a wide player really' thing is contradicted by the evidence of our own eyes? I just don't get it. I'd like us to move beyond sentimentality please, we'll need to if we're going to actually challenge for Europe.

Some would call it an obvious signing. I'd call it lazy.

It's not sentiment. He is Chelsea's best striker this season and they are third and in the CL Final.

One of the biggest risks with a signing is actually knowing the character of the player and how they will settle and work with others at the club. Hence the popularity of loans with options to buy.

That's not lazy. That's common sense.

[paul_e]

Also, as I said before, 5 of those goals were against Luton and Barnsley.

The wide player thing needs to be put to bed, if he'd never said it in an interview would anyone look at him and think "he'd make a good winger"?

On the box ticking thing for me too many of those boxes relate to him playing for us 2 years ago. It's the same reason why Milner will probably get a mention on this thread at some point and people have talked about Benteke as a serious option.

What really annoys me about this repeated conversation on him though is that it makes it come across as if I think he's a poor player and that's never been the case, I just don't think he's a good use of the £40-50m they'd want for him and that's been my view for the past 2 summers as well, if he'd been available at any point for around half that I'd be all for it but right now his fee is inflated because of the club he's with just like lots of young English players have been in the last few years.

[PeterWithe]

I wonder if Emre Can fancies another crack at the Prem?

Just checked because I thought he would be in his 30s , he is only 27 seems to have been around ages

Whenever I see him play for Dortmund he brings to mind Jedinak for us, a fine player but I'm not sure he's mobile enough for the defensive midfielder role.

[Monty]

Happy to be proven wrong, I just dont see it. I see a striker who scores one chance in 5 in the Premier League, and whose only position (he is resolutely not a top 6 winger, are we serious) is occupied in our team by a much better player than him. £40m would be better spent elsewhere.

[paul_e]

I wonder if Emre Can fancies another crack at the Prem?

Just checked because I thought he would be in his 30s , he is only 27 seems to have been around ages

Whenever I see him play for Dortmund he brings to mind Jedinak for us, a fine player but I'm not sure he's mobile enough for the defensive midfielder role.

I really like Can but I have the same concern, it's the only thing that puts me off him, he does read the game well though so that covers the lack of mobility a lot of the time but I can't decide if it's enough in such a fast league, I suspect he's just better suited to the pace of the German game.

[nigel]

The fact that this whole 'he's a wide player really' thing is contradicted by the evidence of our own eyes? I just don't get it. I'd like us to move beyond sentimentality please, we'll need to if we're going to actually challenge for Europe.

Some would call it an obvious signing. I'd call it lazy.

It's not sentiment. He is Chelsea's best striker this season and they are third and in the CL Final.

One of the biggest risks with a signing is actually knowing the character of the player and how they will settle and work with others at the club. Hence the popularity of loans with options to buy.

That's not lazy. That's common sense.

Had Tammy not had game time with us already I’d guess many who aren’t as keen would be saying ‘what about that Abraham at Chelsea? 12 goals, not getting game time and only 23. Should be gettable for about £40m’

[JUAN PABLO]

Celtics Dvid Turnbull for 7 mill in the daily Record..  never heard of him

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Can somebody remind me was it Konsa or Engels that had previously played as a defensive midfielder? It's been bugging me for weeks.

Oh and fully agree with Paul_e on the importance of a defensive midfielder being able to read the game.