Villa Park Redevelopment

[Chip Butty 111]

Must admit most of the re development looks a bit of an after thought. I love Villa Park and don't want to move but any works done need to be part of a bigger design vision. It all looks very small time and tacky.

Agree with this. Looks like we are getting bits off TEMU and sticking them on. Villa Park is the best of its type,  it's Shakespeares King Lear, Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue, Jaguars E Type, Mario Puzo's The Godfather.....don't bugger about with it by doing things on the cheap, with no thought on design Doug style.

[Crown Hill]

The clean, new build North Stand plus other adjustments was to take us to 52,190 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2028_bids) whereas the new sort of hybrid North Stand plus adjustments is to take us to 50,000 (48,800 not counting those other adjustments).

The reasoning of keeping fans in the stand during construction obviously makes a lot of sense but what if that proves impossible either way? Justin's video tonight mentioned about the works being delayed to summer or some such. If it's a case of these works can't happen with fans then this is going to look like a mistake. Could be nothing but that bit stood out a bit

I wouldn’t take much notice of his video. The drone footage is interesting but he’s confused and misunderstood loads of issues. So he’s made loads of assumptions which aren’t right. As for work on the North Stand starting in the summer that’s always been the case.

He's the bloke that went on SkySports and said he wouldn't swap any Villa players for an Arsenal one before they beat us?
I am sure he is a nice guy but doesn't know anything above what anyone does. He's just a Villa fan with a Villa themed pub in his garden.

He’s now made a public apology and admitted he plagiarised it from the Prime Time Villa account on X (and other socials). This was obvious and why he couldn’t understand the timeline and dropped all the caveats the originator had carefully used!

[Percy McCarthy]

^^ Big up Prime Time Villa by the way. Top man.

[AV82EC]

So poorly researched and badly edited. Put the camera down Justin and find another hobby. Fucking hell. Fortunately I blocked his content on YT a long time ago.

[VILLA MOLE]

I have not seen this what is this ?

[andyh]

So poorly researched and badly edited. Put the camera down Justin and find another hobby. Fucking hell. Fortunately I blocked his content on YT a long time ago.

I quite agree.
Someone who loves the sound of his own voice far too much.

[eamonn]

Poor Just, he comes across as a nice fella with a passion we all share. We're quite cvntish to Villa fans who have their own YouTube shows aren't we?! Pete the Canadian, yes he's a bit much at times but fair play to the fella, it must take hours to put all that content together and come across so professional.

[Pat Mustard]

Must admit most of the re development looks a bit of an after thought. I love Villa Park and don't want to move but any works done need to be part of a bigger design vision. It all looks very small time and tacky.

Agree with this. Looks like we are getting bits off TEMU and sticking them on. Villa Park is the best of its type,  it's Shakespeares King Lear, Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue, Jaguars E Type, Mario Puzo's The Godfather.....don't bugger about with it by doing things on the cheap, with no thought on design Doug style.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole ground effectively a Doug design at the moment?  I'm not going to defend him, but the 'character' about Villa Park that we (and lots of other fans) love is a result of the higgledy-piggledy nature of it's development.  I don't see what is so offensive about the extension to what is already there on Trinity Road, and it adds corporate/GA+ and additional access spaces without it compromising other areas.

[DB]

^^ Big up Prime Time Villa by the way. Top man.

Agreed

[algy]

Must admit most of the re development looks a bit of an after thought. I love Villa Park and don't want to move but any works done need to be part of a bigger design vision. It all looks very small time and tacky.

Agree with this. Looks like we are getting bits off TEMU and sticking them on. Villa Park is the best of its type,  it's Shakespeares King Lear, Gershwins Rhapsody in Blue, Jaguars E Type, Mario Puzo's The Godfather.....don't bugger about with it by doing things on the cheap, with no thought on design Doug style.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the whole ground effectively a Doug design at the moment?  I'm not going to defend him, but the 'character' about Villa Park that we (and lots of other fans) love is a result of the higgledy-piggledy nature of it's development.  I don't see what is so offensive about the extension to what is already there on Trinity Road, and it adds corporate/GA+ and additional access spaces without it compromising other areas.

Agree entirely.  You can't on one hand say that you want a ground that doesn't look identikit, but also complain that things look different to eachother.  For what it's worth, I like Villa Park a lot, and it's in part because it's a stadium that's been built organically over 130 years rather than something that was conceived on a single architect's drawing board.

I don't see a huge problem with the Trinity Road/Holte End corner thing really.  It sounds like the long term plan in any case involves expanding or rebuilding the Witton Lane stand, and extending some part of the ground, possibly the Holte End, out in to the Aston Hall grounds. A quick, short term fix to up the capacity to above 50k for the euros whilst we're exploring what we can do over a longer timescale.

As of such, I don't think it's a major issue - I suspect it won't be there at all in 10 years time.  If we were keeping it long term, though,  do think adding a red brick facade to the whole thing in the corner would be really nice.  It'd bring heaps of character to that corner of the ground, especially if we pushed the boat out a little on the finishing touches.

[Crown Hill]

Well they’d have to be going some to compete with putting a greenhouse on top of the classic Trinity Road or covering the Holte End and Witton End in hideous red and brown cladding!

[VILLA MOLE]

Well they’d have to be going some to compete with putting a greenhouse on top of the classic Trinity Road or covering the Holte End and Witton End in hideous red and brown cladding!

Unai Emerys Brown Red Army  !!

[AV82EC]

Poor Just, he comes across as a nice fella with a passion we all share. We're quite cvntish to Villa fans who have their own YouTube shows aren't we?! Pete the Canadian, yes he's a bit much at times but fair play to the fella, it must take hours to put all that content together and come across so professional.

It’s a fair shout eamonn and on reflection my critique is a bit harsh on someone who’s just doing it for a hobby BUT this ain’t the first time he’s been called out for chatting shit and getting it wrong to try and drive numbers/views and all that shit on his channel. At least he’s apologised but if you’re going to put stuff where everyone can see it at least do some basic research otherwise where’s your credibility? Or is the goal to be like the Ubertwat Goldbridge.

I follow some really good non Villa content creators on YT, some of which is TV quality imv so maybe my standards are quite high, so when you get people being fast and loose with content even as a hobby it just gets on my goat.

On Pete the Canadian, he’s alright, I don’t agree quite often with his views or summations but there is a level of professionalism about his presentation that means I will watch it when it pops on my feed even if I’m not subscribed.

[Sexual Ealing]

Poor Just, he comes across as a nice fella with a passion we all share. We're quite cvntish to Villa fans who have their own YouTube shows aren't we?! Pete the Canadian, yes he's a bit much at times but fair play to the fella, it must take hours to put all that content together and come across so professional.

It’s a fair shout eamonn and on reflection my critique is a bit harsh on someone who’s just doing it for a hobby BUT this ain’t the first time he’s been called out for chatting shit and getting it wrong to try and drive numbers/views and all that shit on his channel. At least he’s apologised but if you’re going to put stuff where everyone can see it at least do some basic research otherwise where’s your credibility? Or is the goal to be like the Ubertwat Goldbridge.

I follow some really good non Villa content creators on YT, some of which is TV quality imv so maybe my standards are quite high, so when you get people being fast and loose with content even as a hobby it just gets on my goat.

On Pete the Canadian, he’s alright, I don’t agree quite often with his views or summations but there is a level of professionalism about his presentation that means I will watch it when it pops on my feed even if I’m not subscribed.

This is the thing. It's a choice as to where you position yourself with this stuff. It's really not difficult to impose some editorial standards on yourself. It's even easier, however, to quickly make yourself look like a twat, which looks to be the case here.

Is he the same guy who was representing Villa on one of the Carragher/Scholes fan shows for the Overlap?

[kippaxvilla2]

I am trying to think of something that monstrosity looks just like.  The closest I could come to if not in design but in laughable incredulity is that tiny stand at Dunmore United's ground.  Sorry I meant Watford.