Villa Park Redevelopment

[London Villan]

It has to announced, reannounced, then amended before the feasibility study, following a public consultation….

Then we will get some new signs, railings and a lamppost or two.

[pauliewalnuts]

Maybe a new tifo, with a train bursting out of the Holte End. Probably with Ozzy's face on the front.

[paul_e]

The Witton Station plans are part of the extra funding announced by the government that the Blose thought was all earmarked for Knotweed Park.  If Villa are contributing to improvements at Aston then that is fair enough, although much of the problem there comes from the attitude of the staff in control of the barriers as much as anything - they are still not letting enough people onto the platform, causing a bottleneck at the bottom of the stairs, a mad rush when a train arrives, and then trains leaving half-empty.

If they could just then sort getting trains back up to pre-pandemic frequency then it would make a massive difference.  With the new trains you could move 15,000 people per hour on the cross-city line alone if there were 6 trains an hour instead of 4.

I think they're leaving the 'gap' in the schedule for the Moseley line trains which means they'll probably only go back to 6 an hour when the Bordesley chords get sorted to allow that line to run into Moor Street.

[algy]

Here’s the aspiration for bowl optimisation which I can only see as converting 3 tier Trinity into 2 tier. Also mentions  greater offer for accessible seating.

Looking at that, I imagine we'll try to squeeze in a few extra seats by realligning the seats in the Witton Lane upper and Holte End upper so that they match the lower tiers.

Could see us getting up to 60k on that site relatively comfortably.  52.5k from the North Stand development + messing about with seat configurations, then potentially the Holte-Trinity corner and maybe doing a similar job on the Witton Lane stand to what we've done with the North Stand.

In that image, it looks like nothing will be done to DE upper. Where are you seeing this?

No, I was meaning that currently all upper and lower tiers of every stand have the walkways aligned with the steps down to the concourse ... with the exception of the DE Upper and Holte End Upper.  So just as a random guess, I'd think that maybe since they've aligned everything else then they probably plan to do those too.  Won't add huge numbers to the capacity I'd have thought, but that's not stopped them from doing it elsewhere in the ground.

[London Villan]

The Witton Station plans are part of the extra funding announced by the government that the Blose thought was all earmarked for Knotweed Park.  If Villa are contributing to improvements at Aston then that is fair enough, although much of the problem there comes from the attitude of the staff in control of the barriers as much as anything - they are still not letting enough people onto the platform, causing a bottleneck at the bottom of the stairs, a mad rush when a train arrives, and then trains leaving half-empty.

If they could just then sort getting trains back up to pre-pandemic frequency then it would make a massive difference.  With the new trains you could move 15,000 people per hour on the cross-city line alone if there were 6 trains an hour instead of 4.

I think they're leaving the 'gap' in the schedule for the Moseley line trains which means they'll probably only go back to 6 an hour when the Bordesley chords get sorted to allow that line to run into Moor Street.

Which is 10 years away... by that time we will have moved grounds.

[MorrisNielson]

Here’s the aspiration for bowl optimisation which I can only see as converting 3 tier Trinity into 2 tier. Also mentions  greater offer for accessible seating.

Where is this image from CH, I can't seem to find it in the plans?

Birmingham Council Planning Ref: 2025/02905/PA
Associated Documents Ref: DESIGN AND ACCESS STATEMENT Part 1 (page 12 of 14)

[London Villan]

Thank you!

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Trainspotters of the world unite!

[DB]

Square off the Holte upper! Please Villa...

[Ads]

You could whack a corner on there, by going over the road. Have the lower Holte wrap properly with the middle/lower (or soon to be just lower) Trinity. There is a bit of a lower bowl at Villa Park anyway.

[IFWaters]

You could whack a corner on there, by going over the road. Have the lower Holte wrap properly with the middle/lower (or soon to be just lower) Trinity. There is a bit of a lower bowl at Villa Park anyway.

Not sure there would be clearance over the road there..plus there's that box structure in that corner.

[Crown Hill]

The Witton Station plans are part of the extra funding announced by the government that the Blose thought was all earmarked for Knotweed Park.  If Villa are contributing to improvements at Aston then that is fair enough, although much of the problem there comes from the attitude of the staff in control of the barriers as much as anything - they are still not letting enough people onto the platform, causing a bottleneck at the bottom of the stairs, a mad rush when a train arrives, and then trains leaving half-empty.

If the funding is there the Witton Station upgrade could be started surely? Is it that the funding is only proposed and not yet rubber stamped?

It hasn’t actually been allocated by WMCA yet.

The announcement by Rachel Reeves was pure spin. It was a reannouncement of what Rishi Sunak told the Tory conference that the HS2 money saved could be used for local transport projects.

Basically nothing has changed!