Villa Park Redevelopment

[Sexual Ealing]

I'm too cool to have a driving license anyway Paul. Instead, I'll use one of the myriad public transport opportunities available. Oh.

[itbrvilla]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

[LeeB]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

It is, fat lot of use it is to me in Castle Bromwich though.

[Ads]

Something weird about people who don't drive. Or drink. Or those that have a first name for a last name. And those that write in tiny handwriting. I'm onto you.

[AV82EC]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

It is but it’s massively constrained as Paul said earlier by New Street. With a cross rail style tunnel through central Brum and improved signalling you could probably double the capacity of the line. But Whitehall says no because we can’t have nice things.

[Pat Mustard]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

If they could just get back to 6 trains an hour, and be a bit better organised at Aston Station then it would make a massive difference to matchdays.  With the new trains now fully running in theory it could move over 12,000 people an hour.

[Sexual Ealing]

Something weird about people who don't drive. Or drink. Or those that have a first name for a last name. And those that write in tiny handwriting. I'm onto you.

I have a wife who drives, Ads, which allows me to partake of a slurp wherever the opportunity arises. My last name wouldn't be wished as a first name unto even the ugliest child, and my writing is as bold and messy as your politics. You can trust me, Ads. Honestly.

[Chris Smith]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

It is, fat lot of use it is to me in Castle Bromwich though.

It is if you go into town first.

[Chris Smith]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

If they could just get back to 6 trains an hour, and be a bit better organised at Aston Station then it would make a massive difference to matchdays.  With the new trains now fully running in theory it could move over 12,000 people an hour.

I think the shuttle buses have taken some of the strain from the trains for people only heading into the city centre to change. We tend to hang around for a couple of pints before going heading off so am only posting what I’ve been told by others.

[pauliewalnuts]

Half the problem with transport seems to be bone-headed changes in traffic management. Roads which until a few years ago used to be one way after the match turned into two way, with an absolute jumble of cars fighting it over for every inch in both directions. Trains leaving half empty whilst there are 90 minute queues outside. That sort of thing really does not help.

[paul_e]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Cross City Line is great.

It is, fat lot of use it is to me in Castle Bromwich though.

It is if you go into town first.

Or head along the Chester road for a bit.

[Risso]

The big problem around Villa Park is that all of the cars are essentially going out two ways, either towards Lichfild Road or Witton Road. Very few of the intersecting streets (eg Nelson Road) are wide enough for two cars to pass going in opposite directions, so it's an absolute nightmare. There are loads of junctions which don't help, and traffic management which would help speed things up, is non existent.

[LeeB]

'A bit' is doing some heavy lifting there Paul, yeah it's just around the corner if you're Mo Farrah.

[PeterWithesShin]

There's a simple solution, flying cars.

[The Edge]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.

Birmingham is the biggest city in Europe not to have an integrated underground or tram network.  The city has been woefully neglected in terms of it's infrastructure by governments of both colours since the 1950's when it was seen as a threat to London because of its rapid growth after the war. They needed to slow it down and it worked. Rant over.