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Offline Villan82

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6360 on: January 27, 2024, 04:28:17 PM »
If they cannot see what we have at Villa Park then they are not half as clever as they think they are. That survey done 2 years ago showed the overwhelming preference was to stay at Villa Park that was redeveloped.

They have said time and time again we are staying but then again we have seen Heck is very loose in terms of how he defines being trughtful.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6361 on: January 27, 2024, 04:47:43 PM »
I know people joke about sponsored stadiums but I honestly couldn't give a shit if they did. It's not like we'd actually start saying "The Starbucks Villa Park", no one would say it. I never mentioned Sports Direct when referring to the St James Stadium, it's just the "Saudi Arabian Slaughter House" now.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6362 on: January 27, 2024, 04:50:13 PM »
I know people joke about sponsored stadiums but I honestly couldn't give a shit if they did. It's not like we'd actually start saying "The Starbucks Villa Park", no one would say it. I never mentioned Sports Direct when referring to the St James Stadium, it's just the "Saudi Arabian Slaughter House" now.

Wes Eden’s investment company is called Fortress something or other. That’d be alright.

Offline edgysatsuma89

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« Reply #6363 on: January 27, 2024, 04:53:22 PM »
I know people joke about sponsored stadiums but I honestly couldn't give a shit if they did. It's not like we'd actually start saying "The Starbucks Villa Park", no one would say it. I never mentioned Sports Direct when referring to the St James Stadium, it's just the "Saudi Arabian Slaughter House" now.

Wes Eden’s investment company is called Fortress something or other. That’d be alright.

Well that would work. Might be an open goal if we lose a few on the bounce, though.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6364 on: January 27, 2024, 05:02:12 PM »
Posted in Emery thread because it went a bit off topic, probably better here:

Wouldn’t surprise me if the strategy is to keep demand high by restricting supply; as all of us who have economics O levels know this increases prices. At the same time bigger sponsorship deals can still be done which won’t cost £100m or reduce capacity for two years and will dwarf the effect of 10,000 extra seats. Front of shirt, stadium naming rights, etc.

If and when that’s all sorted, we move.

It’s worth bearing in mind that according to the rule of thumb for valuing football clubs (5 x revenue) we are now worth a billion quid, How much did NSWE pay and how much invested since? Just over half that I think? And they’ve sold a chunk recently, they’ll be delighted with their investment so far and will keep investing IMO along with their new partners.

This is how I see it, without lots of other investment in infrastructure around the ground it would be difficult to get the value out of the big investment in a new stand so the delay is to see what the other options are to make Villa Park more than a place you visit 19 or so times a year for a couple of hours.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6365 on: January 27, 2024, 05:07:18 PM »
I know people joke about sponsored stadiums but I honestly couldn't give a shit if they did. It's not like we'd actually start saying "The Starbucks Villa Park", no one would say it. I never mentioned Sports Direct when referring to the St James Stadium, it's just the "Saudi Arabian Slaughter House" now.

Wes Eden’s investment company is called Fortress something or other. That’d be alright.

I don't know a lot (anything) about sponsorship, but a PE firm isn't really the kind of retail prospect that'd work for sponsoring us. I can't see how we'd demonstrate fair market rate or whatever.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6366 on: January 27, 2024, 05:23:48 PM »
This is where the waters get murky when owners effectively start sponsoring their own football team - see Man Chea£y FC

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6367 on: January 27, 2024, 05:29:14 PM »
I know people joke about sponsored stadiums but I honestly couldn't give a shit if they did. It's not like we'd actually start saying "The Starbucks Villa Park", no one would say it. I never mentioned Sports Direct when referring to the St James Stadium, it's just the "Saudi Arabian Slaughter House" now.

Wes Eden’s investment company is called Fortress something or other. That’d be alright.

I don't know a lot (anything) about sponsorship, but a PE firm isn't really the kind of retail prospect that'd work for sponsoring us. I can't see how we'd demonstrate fair market rate or whatever.

I agree, but I thought of it after I heard the Sty is to be sponsored by their hedge fund owners, Knobhead or something.

Would Comcast get much out of a naming deal perhaps? Again, might not be after that kind of brand recognition.

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6368 on: January 27, 2024, 11:28:08 PM »
I know people joke about sponsored stadiums but I honestly couldn't give a shit if they did. It's not like we'd actually start saying "The Starbucks Villa Park", no one would say it. I never mentioned Sports Direct when referring to the St James Stadium, it's just the "Saudi Arabian Slaughter House" now.

Wes Eden’s investment company is called Fortress something or other. That’d be alright.

I don't know a lot (anything) about sponsorship, but a PE firm isn't really the kind of retail prospect that'd work for sponsoring us. I can't see how we'd demonstrate fair market rate or whatever.

I agree, but I thought of it after I heard the Sty is to be sponsored by their hedge fund owners, Knobhead or something.

Would Comcast get much out of a naming deal perhaps? Again, might not be after that kind of brand recognition.

Isn't Knighthead some kind of insurance brand?

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« Reply #6369 on: January 27, 2024, 11:31:44 PM »
This is where the waters get murky when owners effectively start sponsoring their own football team - see Man Chea£y FC

Agreed, but Etihad is an airline, that people buy tickets from and travel with.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6370 on: January 28, 2024, 12:42:55 AM »
This is where the waters get murky when owners effectively start sponsoring their own football team - see Man Chea£y FC

Agreed, but Etihad is an airline, that people buy tickets from and travel with.
Same owners as Chea£y . Overly Inflated sponsorships

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6371 on: January 28, 2024, 07:51:46 AM »
Not for the first time, you're missing the point.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6372 on: January 28, 2024, 09:01:39 AM »
Not for the first time, you're missing the point.
i get it , we need a sponsor the general public spend with ? As an aside aren't Fortress now 70% owned by Sheikh Mansour

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6373 on: January 30, 2024, 02:10:01 PM »
So they've just this morning released the resale tickets - approx 700 available.  Far too late, but I get why they want to squeeze their own sales first.

In addition, the 'selling really well' Terrace View has 255 available (just over a quarter) and Lower Grounds 118 (after they have gifted some through a ballot etc).

Yes it's a late KO and there are transport issues.  But it's a game against one of our closest rivals whilst we sit in the top 4 of the league.  This is why they're not building the North Stand.  Don't panic about moving to a new ground, they're too worried about getting enough premium / GA+ sales to build up to 50k let alone 60.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #6374 on: January 30, 2024, 02:15:18 PM »
I think all "under capacity" games this season have been due to TV and LG no selling out.

 


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