Villa Park Redevelopment

[Malandro]

I genuinely don’t think they understand their target audience if they think these overpriced packages are what regular match goers want and can afford…or may be that’s the whole point (ie targetting day trippers rather than regular match going Villa fans).

Redscouse and Tootinham have loads of daytrippers, build a bigger stadium and target both....priority to 'regular' fans

They are not all day trippers either - some are fans that are fine paying extra.

I certainly understand concerns if basic tickets are £60+ however.

[DB]

I genuinely don’t think they understand their target audience if they think these overpriced packages are what regular match goers want and can afford…or may be that’s the whole point (ie targetting day trippers rather than regular match going Villa fans).

Redscouse and Tootinham have loads of daytrippers, build a bigger stadium and target both....priority to 'regular' fans

They are not all day trippers either - some are fans that are fine paying extra.

I certainly understand concerns if basic tickets are £60+ however.

Agreed.
With Spuds, they could have thousands of seats available if they sold Son, so many Koreans go there.

[cdward]

This article is 2 years old, we are obviously playing catch up as a lot of these points are relevant to us and Heck right now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10234693/Chelsea-Liverpool-City-Man-Uniteds-matchday-income-revealed-does-club-make.html



"..the biggest clubs are working hard on how to bring in money from more expensive tickets and additional hospitality."

" teams have to find increasingly clever ways to drive growth, particularly in the absence of major stadium expansions.
..Tactics increasingly include, creating additional ‘premium seating’ in areas of the stadium..
‘The clubs are looking to increase revenue, so it is not worth adding more seats unless you add more boxes and hospitality,'
...
..‘If the additional seats go to season ticket holders that does not work financially. The additional capacity could be sold as premium seating, but not if the redevelopment is behind the goal because premium seats tend to be along the side around the half-way line.
‘Clubs will only go for increases in capacity if it is combined with a significant return from hospitality.'

[VillaTim]

Just had this email come through from one of those 'Hospitality organisations. A previous employee subscribed and I get his emails forwarded to me. Usually they are tickets for Champs League etc games.

Aston Villa v Newcastle - Tuesday 30th January - 20:15 Kick Off
The Lower Grounds - Premium Experience
Arrive to The Lower Grounds entrance situated within the Holte End, Access 3hrs pre & 1.5hrs post (no HT access, concourse only), Inclusive drinks – selected beers, wines, and soft drinks, Inclusive ‘all you can eat’ food offering served at street food stations, Official Longside Seats in Trinity Road Stand Upper Block A2, Former player discussions and large media screens, Complimentary Matchday programme
£250 Per Person

why not just buy direct from the club ? create an account / client ref and away you go for far less

[waynejames]

I'm almost done with this premier league merry go round. Im not being rinsed for a day out at the football. Burnley at home in the lower north was about the most i'm ever going to pay to watch what was a working mens game. Yeah yeah i'll miss it but hey ho non league here i go. Wages just do not keep up with this circus. I have done and will do the remaining conference games, 81 quid for the first 3 home games was about right.
A new north stand will send ticket prices into orbit....

[VillaTim]

I'm almost done with this premier league merry go round. Im not being rinsed for a day out at the football. Burnley at home in the lower north was about the most i'm ever going to pay to watch what was a working mens game. Yeah yeah i'll miss it but hey ho non league here i go. Wages just do not keep up with this circus. I have done and will do the remaining conference games, 81 quid for the first 3 home home was about right.
A new north stand will send ticket prices into orbit....

totally understandable

[Chris Harte]

Just had this email come through from one of those 'Hospitality organisations. A previous employee subscribed and I get his emails forwarded to me. Usually they are tickets for Champs League etc games.

Aston Villa v Newcastle - Tuesday 30th January - 20:15 Kick Off
The Lower Grounds - Premium Experience
Arrive to The Lower Grounds entrance situated within the Holte End, Access 3hrs pre & 1.5hrs post (no HT access, concourse only), Inclusive drinks – selected beers, wines, and soft drinks, Inclusive ‘all you can eat’ food offering served at street food stations, Official Longside Seats in Trinity Road Stand Upper Block A2, Former player discussions and large media screens, Complimentary Matchday programme
£250 Per Person

The club are selling that package themselves for £130. It's still overpriced.

A fool and their money, and all that.

[VillaTim]

Just had this email come through from one of those 'Hospitality organisations. A previous employee subscribed and I get his emails forwarded to me. Usually they are tickets for Champs League etc games.

Aston Villa v Newcastle - Tuesday 30th January - 20:15 Kick Off
The Lower Grounds - Premium Experience
Arrive to The Lower Grounds entrance situated within the Holte End, Access 3hrs pre & 1.5hrs post (no HT access, concourse only), Inclusive drinks – selected beers, wines, and soft drinks, Inclusive ‘all you can eat’ food offering served at street food stations, Official Longside Seats in Trinity Road Stand Upper Block A2, Former player discussions and large media screens, Complimentary Matchday programme
£250 Per Person

The club are selling that package themselves for £130. It's still overpriced.

A fool and their money, and all that.

it only stacks up financially if you are a very heavy drinker

[Chris Harte]

This article is 2 years old, we are obviously playing catch up as a lot of these points are relevant to us and Heck right now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10234693/Chelsea-Liverpool-City-Man-Uniteds-matchday-income-revealed-does-club-make.html



"..the biggest clubs are working hard on how to bring in money from more expensive tickets and additional hospitality."

" teams have to find increasingly clever ways to drive growth, particularly in the absence of major stadium expansions.
..Tactics increasingly include, creating additional ‘premium seating’ in areas of the stadium..
‘The clubs are looking to increase revenue, so it is not worth adding more seats unless you add more boxes and hospitality,'
...
..‘If the additional seats go to season ticket holders that does not work financially. The additional capacity could be sold as premium seating, but not if the redevelopment is behind the goal because premium seats tend to be along the side around the half-way line.
‘Clubs will only go for increases in capacity if it is combined with a significant return from hospitality.'

Maybe they're going to target the Witton Lane side of the ground as a priority. That'll delay things alot.

[tomd2103]

I genuinely don’t think they understand their target audience if they think these overpriced packages are what regular match goers want and can afford…or may be that’s the whole point (ie targetting day trippers rather than regular match going Villa fans).

Redscouse and Tootinham have loads of daytrippers, build a bigger stadium and target both....priority to 'regular' fans

Liverpool have a worldwide 'fan' base with people with people travelling from all over the world to go to Anfield.  Spurs are based in London, which has massive numbers of tourists milling around each weekend looking for something to do and in many cases, just wanting to watch a Premier League match.

We and Birmingham have neither of those, so I'm not sure that demand is there really.

[Towser]

I wonder if they will target the upper Trinity front few rows, those that sit up there close to the halfway line might lose their seats in the next couple of seasons, I am one of those and I said to my Wife that if they take our seats off us, that will be when we stop having a season ticket.

I used to always go on the Holte and Holte Upper when they built the new stand, season ticket holder since late 70's, but my eyes are too old to see the other end of the pitch these days, so I really need to be close to half way line to be able to see both ends clearly, even if I do have an absolute nuicance sitting next to me (not my Wife, the guy the other side) I pay a high price for that privlage and view but will not pay corporate prices to sit in the same seat/ area.

I am 64 this year and fear my match attending years are coming to a close pretty soon.

[frank black]

This is why they are targeting the seats behind the dugout, no doubt I’m on borrowed time.

[Mister E]

It seems obvious that the club would test the price elasticity of ticket-prices and other matchday 'consumables'. As posted previously, the most successful Premier League clubs are earning significantly more than us on matchdays as well as from other commercial sources. For us to be competitive in the top echelons of the league, we have to earn more.
The discussions on FFP elsewhere on this site - and indeed in mainstream media - show the two sides of the coin: the one is where clubs are now struggling to add to their squad because of the FFP constraints; the less-discussed side is the imperative on clubs to increase their top line so that players can become more affordable under FFP. We can expect one without the other.
I suspect that the H&V forum is not representative of the whole fanbase, and there will be plenty of people ready to take my ST seat and that of others here when we vote with our feet. So, I don't think they will find a mass revolt taking place any time soon.

[VillaTim]

All fine while we are doing well on the pitch but we all know if results start falling away the numbers will start dropping , that's what's happened historically anyway .

[Des Little]

I wonder if they will target the upper Trinity front few rows, those that sit up there close to the halfway line might lose their seats in the next couple of seasons, I am one of those and I said to my Wife that if they take our seats off us, that will be when we stop having a season ticket.

I used to always go on the Holte and Holte Upper when they built the new stand, season ticket holder since late 70's, but my eyes are too old to see the other end of the pitch these days, so I really need to be close to half way line to be able to see both ends clearly, even if I do have an absolute nuicance sitting next to me (not my Wife, the guy the other side) I pay a high price for that privlage and view but will not pay corporate prices to sit in the same seat/ area.

I am 64 this year and fear my match attending years are coming to a close pretty soon.

This is exactly where I’m at…I may even be that nuisance sitting next to you in Upper Trinity! I fully expect our blocks to be taken over for corporate/GA+ in the next couple of years, it’s inevitable.  My eyesight is also poor - sitting behind the goal isn’t an option - so I’ll probably be throwing the towel in when it happens.