Villa Park Redevelopment

[VillaTim]

Just an idle thought. What will happen with the compulsorily purchased land which will no longer be required now the northern bit of HS2 has been cancelled?

have they bought the land and kicked people out yet etc ?

[AV82EC]

Just an idle thought. What will happen with the compulsorily purchased land which will no longer be required now the northern bit of HS2 has been cancelled?

There is no compulsorily purchased land to do with the northern bit of HS2 that would in anyway be suitable as its all to the N and NE of Brum and out in the sticks.

[PeterWithe]

As an aside I dont think I ever saw an answer about where any potential HS2 tunnel started and finished. I saw a mate yesterday who’s missus works on it, he said the tunnel has already started near Water Orton and goes to near Washwood Heath, so when it’s finished there will be development land above it although the bit I thought might be a goer, where the cement factory is on the side of the spine road, is earmarked for railway sidings.

[London Villan]

HS2 have released a big chunk of land on the southern edge of the Washwood Heath plot which could accommodate a stadium - but there is a lot of residential around there and the transport links are poor (atm).

[LeeB]

As an aside I dont think I ever saw an answer about where any potential HS2 tunnel started and finished. I saw a mate yesterday who’s missus works on it, he said the tunnel has already started near Water Orton and goes to near Washwood Heath, so when it’s finished there will be development land above it although the bit I thought might be a goer, where the cement factory is on the side of the spine road, is earmarked for railway sidings.

There's a massive works just past Park Hall School next to the M6, that must be the start point.

The sodding wagons are endlessly trundling past my house.

[dave.woodhall]

Both the Jets and the Giants play in the Metlife, which is 5 miles west of Manhattan. Nothing really to do with franchising, it’s just because there’s more space there. 

They don't play in the state they're from. It would be like us moving to Sandwell, which is only 4 miles from Villa Park, because there is more space.

8 miles move to the NEC / HS2 Interchange where there is loads of space , great motorway connections , HS2 (40 mins to central London) and an airport.
Whether we like or not that location must be on their radar as a serious option to look at

That would kill the club, effectively. That area is a fucking desert and still will be with HS2 there. The traffic around there is also utterly horrendous when anything even remotely big is on at the NEC.

you've got Resorts World there now so shops / bars / restaurant casino. There's obviously quite a few hotels around that area / airport too. Not my cup of team would be a bit like Wembley and that outlet shopping centre next to it

40,000 people trying to get into Nando's and Pizza Hut. Whoopee do.

[PeterWithe]

I'm up for the old DAF site though.

Thats going to be Railway sidings

[The Man With A Stick]

Fantastic, a stadium in Marston fucking Green sandwiched in-between an exhibition hall and the M42, built on a sliver of car park. Absolutely dire to get to, limited public transport and a minimum of 19 days of carnage. Fuck no and anybody suggesting it is on crack.

It'd be alright to get to if you're using Jet2 or Ryanair, though Aziz Coaches from Sparkbrook aren't keen.

A big fat fuck-off NO to the NEC from me.

[LeeB]

I'm up for the old DAF site though.

Thats going to be Railway sidings

Build above them, would add to the Victorian vibe.

[Risso]

40,000 people trying to get into Nando's and Pizza Hut. Whoopee do.

They won't want existing Nando's and Pizza Hut anywhere near, they'll want to develop an area so they own the whole lot and rent it all out.

[eamonn]

Can we bring back the Leyland DAF Trophy too? Enter the U21s, watch them beat Blose in the final.

[dave.woodhall]

40,000 people trying to get into Nando's and Pizza Hut. Whoopee do.

They won't want existing Nando's and Pizza Hut anywhere near, they'll want to develop an area so they own the whole lot and rent it all out.

Exactly. Those who say the NEC is a goer think we're going to be able to stick an entire new complex on some mythical bit of land close to all the existing good bits even though they're miles from each other and in between them is a fucking great exhibition centre.

[Dante Lavelli]

Good post Smithy. We're by the biggest club between London and the North West, and we should be hoovering up neutrals, as the only other clubs in the area are much smaller, provincial nobodies.

It's a good point. I wonder how many potential fans live within a 60-minute drive of VP? That's probably as far south as Northampton given it's motorway all the way for them.

I was a massive football but didn’t support any specific club until I was taken to Villa.  I lived in south Northants and this was the easiest PL club to visit (ignoring Coventry). 

We are uniquely placed in the country to attract fans like me, and subsequently three or four of my mates; yet right now it is a absolute ball-ache trying to buy tickets together for a small group of irregular fans.

[Sexual Ealing]

Good post Smithy. We're by the biggest club between London and the North West, and we should be hoovering up neutrals, as the only other clubs in the area are much smaller, provincial nobodies.

It's a good point. I wonder how many potential fans live within a 60-minute drive of VP? That's probably as far south as Northampton given it's motorway all the way for them.

I was a massive football but didn’t support any specific club until I was taken to Villa.  I lived in south Northants and this was the easiest PL club to visit (ignoring Coventry). 

We are uniquely placed in the country to attract fans like me, and subsequently three or four of my mates; yet right now it is a absolute ball-ache trying to buy tickets together for a small group of irregular fans.

Nothing to do with tickets, but H&V contains a lot of irregular people, let alone fans. Bring your mates here.

[Dante Lavelli]

I still think that the plan (in the short term at least) is to do absolutely nothing except extort more money from the existing capacity. If they are looking at moving, then Comcast will want a big site that supports multi use like retail, dining, leisure, residential and office space etc. It's the only only way to make any money from a new stadium complex. In that respect, we become a secondary consideration.

Secondary from a commercial perspective possibly, but all big developments need an anchor tenant.  I’d see Villa as that, the star attraction that pulls in all the ancillary services.