Villa Park Redevelopment

[VillaTim]

Looking at the American NFL model, most teams rent their stadiums so I would think this might be the model the owners are looking at rather than spending the money themselves . (If we are going down the new stadium route).

[The Edge]

In terms of relocating,had we had the vision, ambition and money a few years back we could/should have bought the old IMI site on the other side of Witton Road - think it's now a collection of warehouses/logistics depots.

Then we could have built a new ground whilst still playing at Villa Park, and remained close to our roots.

The Serpentine would have been the perfect location but I think Doug sold that off for a handful of beans.

[VillaTim]

In terms of relocating,had we had the vision, ambition and money a few years back we could/should have bought the old IMI site on the other side of Witton Road - think it's now a collection of warehouses/logistics depots.

Then we could have built a new ground whilst still playing at Villa Park, and remained close to our roots.

The Serpentine would have been the perfect location but I think Doug sold that off for a handful of beans.

Remember when the Asda was on there , seems like another lifetime ago

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Looking at the American NFL model, most teams rent their stadiums so I would think this might be the model the owners are looking at rather than spending the money themselves . (If we are going down the new stadium route).

That's because of franchising. Even the New York Jets, a team everybody has heard of even if they don't know out about NFL, don't play in the state of New York. Metlife Stadium being in the Meadowlands for Sopranos fans out there.

[Risso]

Both the Jets and the Giants play in the Metlife, which is 5 miles west of Manhattan. Nothing really to do with franchising, it’s just because there’s more space there. 

[VillaTim]

I was thinking more if we did build a new £1-2Bn stadium, the club probably won't want that debt round their neck and may look at a lease arrangement with one of the big US stadium owner/operators

[chrisw1]

General Admission and General Admission plus, the later being short hand for the no man's land between proper corporate and normal tickets like Terrace View and Lower Grounds.

I see. Ta!

Is this your new Dan Bardell?

[chrisw1]

“There aren’t enough facilities in the area for the supporters”.

Hmmm. I wonder what that means. Inside five years we’re building elsewhere. Nailed on.

Isn’t that in relation to the warehouse thing?  He wants to build that first

Across all the comments the thing that stands out for me is that everything he says about making sure we maximise the revenue for what we have before adding more seats. Some people will see it as cynical, and that's fair, but things like getting people to buy food at the ground instead of a chip shop on the way to/from it or to arrange to meet friends at the warehouse instead of a pub for a couple of pre-match beers. None of that is wanting supporters to spend more money overall but it is wanting to grab a bigger share of what they spend already.

Personally I'm really intrigued by what they're going to do with the GA+ stuff they already have to make it more appealing. I said before that, for me, the lower grounds in concept isn't terrible, get the food and drink offerings right and I can see it being successful in the longer-term, but right now the offering isn't high enough quality to justify it, I'm sure the club are aware of those criticisms. I have bigger issues with the terrace view, which I don't think will last all that long.

And yet from what they're saying, Terrace View is doing the better of the two.

Probbaly because the numbers were boosted by it being a short cut to a season ticket.

[pauliewalnuts]

I was thinking more if we did build a new £1-2Bn stadium, the club probably won't want that debt round their neck and may look at a lease arrangement with one of the big US stadium owner/operators

And how is any stadium operator going to spend that much on a venue and make a profit?

[London Villan]

Is doing better the same as doing well? Seems odd that big sections of seating come back on general sale a couple of days before the matches. Would seem to indicate neither of them selling out.

[VillaTim]

I was thinking more if we did build a new £1-2Bn stadium, the club probably won't want that debt round their neck and may look at a lease arrangement with one of the big US stadium owner/operators

And how is any stadium operator going to spend that much on a venue and make a profit?

they'll know , it's their field of expertise. But it would probably be a multi use venue and not just for AVFC

[PeterWithe]

I was thinking more if we did build a new £1-2Bn stadium, the club probably won't want that debt round their neck and may look at a lease arrangement with one of the big US stadium owner/operators

And how is any stadium operator going to spend that much on a venue and make a profit?

Well it must be possible given that our new investors do just that in the US, conferences, concerts, sport, retail.

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Both the Jets and the Giants play in the Metlife, which is 5 miles west of Manhattan. Nothing really to do with franchising, it’s just because there’s more space there. 

They don't play in the state they're from. It would be like us moving to Sandwell, which is only 4 miles from Villa Park, because there is more space.

[London Villan]

Hasn't done man u any harm - that said I hope we never leave Brum. City centre or anywhere north if we are going to move.

[LeeB]

Whack it in Sutton Park, loads of room there.