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Offline VillaTim

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5895 on: January 11, 2024, 02:28:55 PM »
I think a lot of whats happening points towards a potential move or total rebuild.

Sadly though I think Heck wants to squeeze as much money as possible out of the matchgoing fans for a few years so he can pad his CV with good numbers, and long term plans will get in the way of that.
if we are going to move i see that as a 10 year plan which would mean running B6 into the ground for a decade which won't be a nice way to bow out

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5896 on: January 11, 2024, 02:59:14 PM »
Retail is dead anyway, should knock the Bull Ring down and stick it there. And put a triumphal arc outside as Ads suggests, something like below.




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Rather than swords, those should be actual field artillery cannons and on the stroke of midday every day, one should fire towards Sandwell and then other Small Heath.

And after they were fired.....would anyone notice the damage?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5897 on: January 11, 2024, 04:04:30 PM »
Rebuilding where we are is actually one of the easiest solutions.

There are two drawbacks:
  • The land we have isn't in the right shape so we need some CPOs. But this is likely in the majority of places we'd build that aren't in the sticks.
  • We will have to spend time playing elsewhere and therefore forfeit an amount of match revenue.


A third drawback (and a big one) is that Aston will always struggle to be a year round mixed use stadium, so the income may not justify a new ground in that location. I’d guess our new investors will want a venue that can be sweated for optimum return.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5898 on: January 11, 2024, 04:18:29 PM »
Rebuilding where we are is actually one of the easiest solutions.

There are two drawbacks:
  • The land we have isn't in the right shape so we need some CPOs. But this is likely in the majority of places we'd build that aren't in the sticks.
  • We will have to spend time playing elsewhere and therefore forfeit an amount of match revenue.


A third drawback (and a big one) is that Aston will always struggle to be a year round mixed use stadium, so the income may not justify a new ground in that location. I’d guess our new investors will want a venue that can be sweated for optimum return.

I'd expect if Comcast do end up managing the stadium, they'd have teams and experts in place to go out and find business. I'm not sure how much Villa have actually focused on doing that previously, but it would literally be the management company's top priority.

We've recently had conventions, concerts, superbikes, and are talking about the Euros. There's also the women's team they're trying to build up. It's the second city, there are opportunities there if we are in the right situation to go out and get them and have a dedicated team whose job it is to do that. And yes, the local area isn't the most attractive, but a £1bn project will make a big difference to that image.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5899 on: January 11, 2024, 05:11:32 PM »
City centre location is a non-starter. Even if, for the sake of argument, we had found the site and had permissions etc...who's paying for it? Construction costs are astronomical now. How much would it cost to totally redevelop an area in the city centre with appropriate transport links and build a cutting edge stadium? £1bn? £2bn?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5900 on: January 11, 2024, 05:20:39 PM »
City centre location is a non-starter. Even if, for the sake of argument, we had found the site and had permissions etc...who's paying for it? Construction costs are astronomical now. How much would it cost to totally redevelop an area in the city centre with appropriate transport links and build a cutting edge stadium? £1bn? £2bn?
£2.3Bn

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5901 on: January 11, 2024, 07:17:47 PM »
I feel this thread is going around in circles.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5902 on: January 11, 2024, 08:56:09 PM »
I feel this thread is going around in circles.

NO! This thread needs to have four separate sides.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5903 on: January 11, 2024, 10:13:32 PM »
I feel this thread is going around in circles.
Definitely. And I blame one man for that. Chris Heck. His communication skills on this subject and others are absolutely chronic which has lead to endless speculation.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5904 on: January 11, 2024, 10:27:16 PM »
I feel this thread is going around in circles.

NO! This thread needs to have four separate sides.

With gables 😃

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5905 on: January 11, 2024, 10:37:59 PM »
I feel this thread is going around in circles.

NO! This thread needs to have four separate sides.
And a subterranean level

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5906 on: January 12, 2024, 12:40:13 AM »

Online Marlon From Bearwood

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5907 on: January 12, 2024, 07:38:27 AM »
https://www.ft.com/content/faeff9d5-d803-4cf8-9cd9-961ff1557540

Interesting video, Percy. I’ve also linked an FT article from this week on building stadiums, the main point being that they are now supposed to be entertainment complexes - year-round cash cows rather than somewhere people only visit 25 times a year. As mentioned above, is Aston really a likely location for such a place?



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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5908 on: January 12, 2024, 07:41:37 AM »
I suppose the counter to that is neither was Stratford but the construction of a stadium there regenerates the area and brings visitors and investment.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5909 on: January 12, 2024, 08:10:24 AM »
I suppose the counter to that is neither was Stratford but the construction of a stadium there regenerates the area and brings visitors and investment.

£12bn has been invested in regenerating Stratford though. According to my son who is studying it for his A Level geography ( and has a mock exam on it today)

 


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