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Offline Villan82

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5355 on: January 04, 2024, 08:56:48 AM »
We have gone from being a really sleek and professional outfit to a quite amateurish one and I know it is really simplistic and silly to put it down to individuals but the change coincided with Purslow's departure and Heck's arrival.

I don't care about Heck's reputation in American football, I only care about how things are going at Villa

I still fail to see what was wrong with this vision for Villa Park:

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5356 on: January 04, 2024, 09:05:19 AM »
Unless they sort the ground out our ability to invest on the pitch will be at significant disadvantage to our peers, and the longer they leave it the greater the gap grows.

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« Reply #5357 on: January 04, 2024, 09:10:35 AM »
Unless they sort the ground out our ability to invest on the pitch will be at significant disadvantage to our peers, and the longer they leave it the greater the gap grows.

Completely agree.

Which is why I think the North Stand has been kiboshed. I think they realise that they could end up chucking a lot of money on the other three stands and still not be as competitive as a new-build stadium.  So if you may have to rebuild, why chuck £100m+ at a new stand right now?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5358 on: January 04, 2024, 09:13:05 AM »
Unless they sort the ground out our ability to invest on the pitch will be at significant disadvantage to our peers, and the longer they leave it the greater the gap grows.

Completely agree.

Which is why I think the North Stand has been kiboshed. I think they realise that they could end up chucking a lot of money on the other three stands and still not be as competitive as a new-build stadium.  So if you may have to rebuild, why chuck £100m+ at a new stand right now?


The thought of playing in something like West Ham now play in disturbs me greatly

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5359 on: January 04, 2024, 09:14:18 AM »
Unless they sort the ground out our ability to invest on the pitch will be at significant disadvantage to our peers, and the longer they leave it the greater the gap grows.

Completely agree.

Which is why I think the North Stand has been kiboshed. I think they realise that they could end up chucking a lot of money on the other three stands and still not be as competitive as a new-build stadium.  So if you may have to rebuild, why chuck £100m+ at a new stand right now?


The thought of playing in something like West Ham now play in disturbs me greatly

That was built for something else though not for football.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5360 on: January 04, 2024, 09:14:29 AM »
Unless they sort the ground out our ability to invest on the pitch will be at significant disadvantage to our peers, and the longer they leave it the greater the gap grows.

Completely agree.

Which is why I think the North Stand has been kiboshed. I think they realise that they could end up chucking a lot of money on the other three stands and still not be as competitive as a new-build stadium.  So if you may have to rebuild, why chuck £100m+ at a new stand right now?


The thought of playing in something like West Ham now play in disturbs me greatly

Tottenham's ground is great supposedly...

Offline Villan82

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5361 on: January 04, 2024, 09:15:15 AM »
I guess they went against fans on the crest they can go against us on our wish to be at Villa Park. That's the soul of the club there.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5362 on: January 04, 2024, 09:16:15 AM »
West Ham don't play in a purpose-built football stadium and it does not compete with Spurs or Arsenal or Everton's new stadium commercially. Anything we did would have no resemblance to that whatsoever.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5363 on: January 04, 2024, 09:18:22 AM »
I genuinely don't think they're looking at a relocation.

It's just about return on investment and they now don't think there's enough demand for GA+ tickets, which would have been a major part of the North Stand offering.  This was never about 7,000 more tickets at 45 quid.

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« Reply #5364 on: January 04, 2024, 09:18:45 AM »
I guess they went against fans on the crest they can go against us on our wish to be at Villa Park. That's the soul of the club there.

Maybe the choice is a stark one - move and grow or stay where we are and move further behind.


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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5365 on: January 04, 2024, 09:19:18 AM »
I genuinely don't think they're looking at a relocation.

It's just about return on investment and they now don't think there's enough demand for GA+ tickets, which would have been a major part of the North Stand offering.  This was never about 7,000 more tickets at 45 quid.

 I don't think so either, I think we will stay put and rebuild.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5366 on: January 04, 2024, 09:21:24 AM »
I guess they went against fans on the crest they can go against us on our wish to be at Villa Park. That's the soul of the club there.

Maybe the choice is a stark one - move and grow or stay where we are and move further behind.

What the video I posted. If we can't achieve our dreams at the present location we aren't achieving them anywhere else.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5367 on: January 04, 2024, 09:26:58 AM »
I guess they went against fans on the crest they can go against us on our wish to be at Villa Park. That's the soul of the club there.



What the video I posted. If we can't achieve our dreams at the present location we aren't achieving them anywhere else.

That would be great, but maybe the costs of rebuilding Villa Park are significantly more than starting a build somewhere else?

And I Know they have said there are no current plans etc, but they have said plenty of things recently....
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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5368 on: January 04, 2024, 09:45:27 AM »
The 2k-3k added seats is just a stop gap
 Comcast have obvs come in and want to do a new feasibility study and plan of the stadium as part of the deal. I don't think anything is off the table.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5369 on: January 04, 2024, 09:47:32 AM »
I guess they went against fans on the crest they can go against us on our wish to be at Villa Park. That's the soul of the club there.

Maybe the choice is a stark one - move and grow or stay where we are and move further behind.

What the video I posted. If we can't achieve our dreams at the present location we aren't achieving them anywhere else.
The video you posted was our actual plans before Villa Live got scaled back.  An excellent stand, but only takes us to 50k seats and still with 3 stands with facilities ranging from entirely unacceptable to adequate.

I'm not advocating for a relocation, but it's a stretch to suggest we can get an ideal solution where we are.

 


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