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Offline VillaTim

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5010 on: December 23, 2023, 11:28:18 PM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
The Sliding the new stand in on rails idea was probably more realistic  :)

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5011 on: December 23, 2023, 11:32:58 PM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?

"Raise The Titanic? It would be cheaper to lower the Atlantic".

Offline Exeter 77

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5012 on: December 23, 2023, 11:36:53 PM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
Not very unless you want five a side pitch.

And water polo.
Am I remembering it correctly that the pitch is on what was the Lower Grounds boating lake then?

Offline DeKuip

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5013 on: December 24, 2023, 01:26:51 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
It would make the goals bigger.

Offline dave.woodhall

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5014 on: December 24, 2023, 01:30:20 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
Not very unless you want five a side pitch.

And water polo.
Am I remembering it correctly that the pitch is on what was the Lower Grounds boating lake then?

It is, but as that was man-made it didn't have much effect. The big problem for many years has been the raised water table under the ground

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5015 on: December 24, 2023, 01:52:48 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
I take it you are not a mathmatician and over familiar with trigonometry?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5016 on: December 24, 2023, 06:35:08 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
I take it you are not a mathmatician and over familiar with trigonometry?
He might be thinking of the Nou Camp. They did exactly that donkeys years back but there was a lot of space from the pitch to the stands so it was feasible. It would be impossible to do that at Villa Park.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5017 on: December 24, 2023, 07:10:55 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
An idea that only the MOLE could come up with.  ;)

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5018 on: December 24, 2023, 09:06:59 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
I take it you are not a mathmatician and over familiar with trigonometry?
He might be thinking of the Nou Camp. They did exactly that donkeys years back but there was a lot of space from the pitch to the stands so it was feasible. It would be impossible to do that at Villa Park.

Digging down to the same depth of the lower Witton End/ North Stand, for example, wouldn't be impossible. And we already have space around what is one of the biggest pitches in the country.

As mentioned Barcelona did it and I believe Porto and Marseille did as well. Cost wise there's an old saying about digging down costing twice as much to build up. That, combined with any concerns about the raised water table, may put the kybosh on it.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5019 on: December 24, 2023, 09:17:43 AM »
How do you deal with the High Water Table?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5020 on: December 24, 2023, 09:33:47 AM »
How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?
I take it you are not a mathmatician and over familiar with trigonometry?
He might be thinking of the Nou Camp. They did exactly that donkeys years back but there was a lot of space from the pitch to the stands so it was feasible. It would be impossible to do that at Villa Park.

Digging down to the same depth of the lower Witton End/ North Stand, for example, wouldn't be impossible. And we already have space around what is one of the biggest pitches in the country.

As mentioned Barcelona did it and I believe Porto and Marseille did as well. Cost wise there's an old saying about digging down costing twice as much to build up. That, combined with any concerns about the raised water table, may put the kybosh on it.
Digging down is of course possible but pitch would have to be about the size of a 5 a side pitch.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5021 on: December 24, 2023, 10:22:59 AM »
Moley, go back to your underground bunker to sleep and stop with these dumb suggestions.

Offline exigo

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5022 on: December 24, 2023, 10:28:55 AM »
How do you deal with the High Water Table?

Long studs

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5023 on: December 24, 2023, 11:52:27 AM »
How do you deal with the High Water Table?

Depends very much on the ground conditions and the scale of the excavation, but in the temporary condition dewatering by pumping, permanent condition with tanking (a lined concrete box) but that might need some piles to hold in down... so not really practical across the size of the pitch. If you're not digging down, not too much of an issue.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5024 on: December 24, 2023, 11:55:43 AM »
How do you deal with the High Water Table?
Give it twenty years and the problem will have gone away. They will be planting rows of Pinot Noir and Chardonnay where VP once stood. ;-)

 


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