Villa Park Redevelopment

[paul_e]

As I've said before if we had to move the gas towers at nechells would be the best. Close enough to still be counted as Aston, just about walkable from the city centre, right by the ringroad and expressway and if you include everything between rupert street and the canal it's pretty much a square site which gives loads of option for how we fit things in. In terms of footprint it'd be about half again on top of the current site. It's also not so penned in by residential areas so you reduce the risk of us being bad neighbours.

It's in a truly desolate area, though, and I don't think it would be much better in terms of location than where we are now. Probably worse, in fact.

I know it has problems, and I'd prefer us to redevelop on the current site with agreements to move witton lane across a street or 2 and to take some ground from the park so we could fix the trinity-holte corner but that feels like a long and difficult plan to even start.

[Mister E]

It's not about pure number of seats anymore, it's about being able to offer premium matchday offerings to customers willing to may more for them. All of that takes space. The North on its own will allow us to do some more of that, but we would still be stuck in the other three stands. A full rebuild will allow the whole place to be geared towards doing that without alienating traditional match goers as they have been doing so far with the Holte End.
They want to do loads more things like the Lower Grounds, but are going to struggle within the existing stands. Particularly in the Holte and Doug.

I think you're right, Dog. And I'd add that the ground location relative to ease of access / good transport links is also a massive consideration: any major commitment to expanding and improving the ground (whether it be the current site or a new site) has to include the physical and political ability to get people in and out of the vicinity easily.
As others have said, the experience and expertise of Atairos are perhaps significant in making these judgement-calls; hence why Heck has stopped the existing plans from being delivered.

[Villan82]

Sites so close to two railway stations do not come up easily (not to mention in the area!) so I can't see how we ever do better than where we are. It is just the right location for me (even when I strip away the sentiment).

[pauliewalnuts]

Would be interesting to know how - according to what they said in the fans consultation thing this week - they are going to add 2-3k more seats by reconfiguring what we have now?

[algy]

Sites so close to two railway stations do not come up easily (not to mention in the area!) so I can't see how we ever do better than where we are. It is just the right location for me (even when I strip away the sentiment).

Yeah, I always think if it were a brownfield site, we'd be all talking about moving to the Aston Lower Grounds. 2 railway stations in easy walking distance, and the M6 & A38 spitting distance away

[PeterWithesShin]

Build a 40k stadium at the Alex stadium. Once that's finished we move there and rebuild VP into a 105k capacity stadium. Once that's done we move back to VP and the women's team can have the Alex and the enjoyment that they have the second biggest stadium in the Midlands.

Think big or go home. If our owners don't have that as a plan then shame on them. Shame indeed.

[algy]

Build a 40k stadium at the Alex stadium. Once that's finished we move there and rebuild VP into a 105k capacity stadium. Once that's done we move back to VP and the women's team can have the Alex and the enjoyment that they have the second biggest stadium in the Midlands.

Think big or go home. If our owners don't have that as a plan then shame on them. Shame indeed.

Yes! This is the one, we need unquestionably the two biggest teams between London and Manchester to be Aston Villa and Aston Villa Women.

[Villan82]

The minute Heck opened his mouth this week I had a bad feeling about this game. Deflated me. We were on the march and that idiot tempted fate

[SoccerHQ]

As I've said before I like the potential of Jewellery Quarter the best.

10 or so minutes walk from the city centre, own train station and tramline with Snow hill not that far away and nice selection of pubs.

There must be some old warehouse or industrial site around the ring road we could have a look at surely to see if there could be potential?

[pauliewalnuts]

Anywhere in the JQ is up for competition for residential developments, and there's barely anything large enough to hold a stadium, unfortunately.

[VillaTim]

Nobody is building a 60,000 stadium in the Jewellery Quarter lol. What you guys smoking

[dave.woodhall]

The minute Heck opened his mouth this week I had a bad feeling about this game. Deflated me. We were on the march and that idiot tempted fate

How exactly does that work?

[Somniloquism]

You see straws, you clutch?

[nick harper]

Would be interesting to know how - according to what they said in the fans consultation thing this week - they are going to add 2-3k more seats by reconfiguring what we have now?

Is that a definite and was there any more detail on how and when?

[Villan82]

The minute Heck opened his mouth this week I had a bad feeling about this game. Deflated me. We were on the march and that idiot tempted fate

How exactly does that work?

Too much to drink for me last night. Still, it has been all ambition since 2018 with NSWE and Heck's time with us has been a bit reminiscent of things best left in the past