Villa Park Redevelopment

[Monty]

At this rate the only thing that's going to change about the star is that it won't be alone.

[Ads]

Be interesting to see what they have up their sleeve. Heck has fundamentally shelved everything that Purslow has done regarding two large strategic changes.

There's been a large injection of capital into the holding company. We've taken on new shareholders of the parent company whose business it is to fund infrastructure and projects. We have added corporate spaces across the Holte, which as unpopular as they are with us, are clearly popular enough with others and are being used. A larger event space is about to go into works.

My own impression is that they don't care too much about transport, because the club don't need to. It's not and never has been our responsibility and planning conditions within the permission reflect that. That's my subjective take anyway.

I cant reconcile any of the objective facts, my own best guess with the notion that we don't want to do more or too quickly. It feels a poor choice of words to mask an excuse. "Thiughtful plans" sounds to me like a kind way of saying something is bad. Again that's my guess.

Looking at Arsenal, Spurs, Anfield; all have involved CPO and the fattening of existing housing stock. You want space, you want to attract business and a general gentrification in whole/part, helps. N17 and L4 are post codes with much incommon with B6.

I absolutely have zero patience and I understand the reaction to an extent from Risso et al. It's a bit like me when somebody puts onions on a sandwich. It's unacceptable and I'm going to make it known. But none of any of this makes sense with the things that have happened, are happening and have happened elsewhere, with the few words Heck has spoken.

[VillaTim]

Something that haven't actually even done - Heck referred today to consulting with the fan base on the new badge. How have they done that? I must have missed it. They also present it as something they've done out of the goodness of their hearts rather than a Premier League requirement to consult, which is what it is.

There was the same lot of questions to answer that we had last time. As you say, all he needed to say was "we don't think this refelcts how we want to move our brand further, and it's no use for online marketing so we're going to do it better" There would have been a few grumbles but I don't think many people liked the lion facing the wrong way anyway.

In the hospitality areas they've been handing out freebies (wash bag, travel mug, water bottle etc) in the last few weeks at most games, and it's all had this branding on it:



I reckon it's almost certain that what they're planning is this, or the the same with the lion facing the other way.

That is f*ckin’ perfect 👍

i'd remove the aston villa lettering and just have the lion , certainly on the kits anyway

[paul_e]

I could stomach a rebuild on the current site as long as that red brick façade is left absolutely fucking pristine and untouched. Actually, build red brick façades round the whole god damn ground.

This is why I'd be open to moving, red brick all round, shared lower tier but split upper tiers to maintain 4 distinct stands and then the whole thing put on a bit of a plateau so you can see it for miles around.

[Dogtanian]

I could stomach a rebuild on the current site as long as that red brick façade is left absolutely fucking pristine and untouched. Actually, build red brick façades round the whole god damn ground.

This is why I'd be open to moving, red brick all round, shared lower tier but split upper tiers to maintain 4 distinct stands and then the whole thing put on a bit of a plateau so you can see it for miles around.

I do like that we have four stands. It's a proper stadium.

But unfortunately, I think any new stadium would be an all-rounder so they can maximise those boxes and views for entertaining the rich.

[Risso]

I could stomach a rebuild on the current site as long as that red brick façade is left absolutely fucking pristine and untouched. Actually, build red brick façades round the whole god damn ground.

This is why I'd be open to moving, red brick all round, shared lower tier but split upper tiers to maintain 4 distinct stands and then the whole thing put on a bit of a plateau so you can see it for miles around.

Shove it in the Lickey Hills?!

[Rigadon]

I read it thinking tat they want to maximise the revenue of potential CL football next season.  Can't do that with 3/4 (at best) capacity.  I kind of agree with it if it's on that basis.  Would we really want our first modern era CL campaign being played at a building site?

I'd be totally anti a new location for Villa Park. 

[Drummond]

help develop the Hawthorns ! i think i'll pass on that gem

Thankfully, you're not making the decisions.

[Drummond]

I read it thinking tat they want to maximise the revenue of potential CL football next season.  Can't do that with 3/4 (at best) capacity.  I kind of agree with it if it's on that basis.  Would we really want our first modern era CL campaign being played at a building site?

I'd be totally anti a new location for Villa Park.

I agree with you.

[Chico Hamilton III]

This is why I'd be open to moving, red brick all round, shared lower tier but split upper tiers to maintain 4 distinct stands and then the whole thing put on a bit of a plateau so you can see it for miles around.

So a ground share with the the Albion it is then, if we want to occupy the highest league ground above sea level

[LeeB]

If we borrowed the Hawthorns, we could at least give further hospitality by parking a row of double decker buses behind the main stand that would have a clear view of the pitch.

[Demitri_C]

Yeah i like that. But i prefer if lions facing normal way. I didnt like the change over

[Monty]

I could stomach a rebuild on the current site as long as that red brick façade is left absolutely fucking pristine and untouched. Actually, build red brick façades round the whole god damn ground.

This is why I'd be open to moving, red brick all round, shared lower tier but split upper tiers to maintain 4 distinct stands and then the whole thing put on a bit of a plateau so you can see it for miles around.

Nah, no moving. Rebuild on the site. The field exhales the ghosts of victors past, a piece of the true league title trophy and a fingernail of George Ramsay are buried beneath the centre spot, the grass that grows flowers and releases a pollen that enters unsuspecting nostrils and turns their heads and hearts towards B6, new Lions made biochemically.

[paul_e]

I could stomach a rebuild on the current site as long as that red brick façade is left absolutely fucking pristine and untouched. Actually, build red brick façades round the whole god damn ground.

This is why I'd be open to moving, red brick all round, shared lower tier but split upper tiers to maintain 4 distinct stands and then the whole thing put on a bit of a plateau so you can see it for miles around.

Nah, no moving. Rebuild on the site. The field exhales the ghosts of victors past, a piece of the true league title trophy and a fingernail of George Ramsay are buried beneath the centre spot, the grass that grows flowers and releases a pollen that enters unsuspecting nostrils and turns their heads and hearts towards B6, new Lions made biochemically.

but if we rebuild on site how many years do we have to play elsewhere and where would we go? and how much extra land do we need to buy to get the footprint we'd need to go for a 60k beast with all the facilities you'd expect of a modern stadium?

[PeterWithe]

I read it thinking tat they want to maximise the revenue of potential CL football next season.  Can't do that with 3/4 (at best) capacity.  I kind of agree with it if it's on that basis.  Would we really want our first modern era CL campaign being played at a building site?. 

But they've said the plan is for European football every season, so we'll have to do the job sometime, and its never going to get any cheaper. So why not now?