Villa Park Redevelopment

[Drummond]

I'm actually quite happy with the news. Disappointed we won't be 50k+ in the next couple of years, but overall I think we will get something better.

Chucking £100m+ now on one stand, knowing you will still be behind and still be limited in what you can do with the other three, isn't a no-brainer decision. The absolute best option as far as being competitive and growing the club, is a whole new stadium that is designed to generate the kind of revenue we need from the off.

Everything these owners have been doing has been about getting us up to an elite level. Why do we all worry they're now giving up on having an elite stadium?

I'd love a complete rebuild in our current site. We have plenty of land there, it's just annoyingly shaped. If something can be done about that, the prospect of a new top-of-the-range stadium with first class facilities funding a top four team has me drooling.

To be fair that's like me drooling over the idea of a night with Dua Lipa. It's a nice idea but the chances of it happening are less than zero. How on earth would we get a whole new stadium on the current site? Where would we play in the years it would take to demolish and rebuild? If they're pulling a face at one new stand, how is that you think they're going to demolish all four, especially when two of the stands are half decent and don't need improving yet. If they were going to do that it would make far more sense to just move and build somewhere else.

Our location should be good. And I think it generally would be if the transport stuff was sorted. There are stations and motorways close by; improve the stations and increase capacity, sort out a one-way system for cars, sorted.

[Risso]

The Cov arena only holds 33,000. I can't see plans to share with any of our neighbours going down very well at all to be honest.

[VillaTim]

The council are strapped for cash.

they are bankrupt

[Dogtanian]

Maybe there's a plan to knock Villa Park down and build new on the site, by moving everything 50-100m into the North Stand car park.

Though where the hell we'd play in the meantime is anybody's guess. Maybe we'd offer to develop another stadium in the city to make it near big enough for our temporary use.

Current capacities of local stadia.

Alexandra 18k
Bescot 11k
Hawthorns 26k
Sty 29k
Coventry Arena 40k

So, let's say we went for a total rebuild on site, with improved transport links (notice he referenced them in his video?) and moved to Coventry for a bit, we'd lose a couple of thousand tickets, of which a portion would be away fans.... It's far from ideal, but might be the answer.

Hopefully. The least disruption revenue wise is a new site, but we already have a great site and it would be worth a switch to the Ricoh for a couple of seasons to stay.

[paul_e]

Maybe there's a plan to knock Villa Park down and build new on the site, by moving everything 50-100m into the North Stand car park.

Though where the hell we'd play in the meantime is anybody's guess. Maybe we'd offer to develop another stadium in the city to make it near big enough for our temporary use.

Current capacities of local stadia.

Alexandra 18k
Bescot 11k
Hawthorns 26k
Sty 29k
Coventry Arena 40k

So, let's say we went for a total rebuild on site, with improved transport links (notice he referenced them in his video?) and moved to Coventry for a bit, we'd lose a couple of thousand tickets, of which a portion would be away fans.... It's far from ideal, but might be the answer.

Coventry is nowhere near that big, it's 40k for concerts where they convery most of the pitch. For sport it's a little under 33k.

[Drummond]

Maybe there's a plan to knock Villa Park down and build new on the site, by moving everything 50-100m into the North Stand car park.

Though where the hell we'd play in the meantime is anybody's guess. Maybe we'd offer to develop another stadium in the city to make it near big enough for our temporary use.

Current capacities of local stadia.

Alexandra 18k
Bescot 11k
Hawthorns 26k
Sty 29k
Coventry Arena 40k

So, let's say we went for a total rebuild on site, with improved transport links (notice he referenced them in his video?) and moved to Coventry for a bit, we'd lose a couple of thousand tickets, of which a portion would be away fans.... It's far from ideal, but might be the answer.

Coventry Arena is 32k, not 40. 40 is the figure for gigs, not football matches.

Ah, a flaw in the plan then! Commentary on our games would be good though, "the fans are on the pitch, they think it's.....oh"

[Drummond]

The Cov arena only holds 33,000. I can't see plans to share with any of our neighbours going down very well at all to be honest.

I agree it wouldn't go down well, but it's perhaps better than asking everyone to go to Wembley or the Millennium Stadium, which are the only other grounds that could be considered.

[Monty]

I could stomach a rebuild on the current site as long as that red brick façade is left absolutely fucking pristine and untouched. Actually, build red brick façades round the whole god damn ground.

[eamonn]

Being sent to Coventry, please no.

[Dogtanian]

I'm actually quite happy with the news. Disappointed we won't be 50k+ in the next couple of years, but overall I think we will get something better.

Chucking £100m+ now on one stand, knowing you will still be behind and still be limited in what you can do with the other three, isn't a no-brainer decision. The absolute best option as far as being competitive and growing the club, is a whole new stadium that is designed to generate the kind of revenue we need from the off.

Everything these owners have been doing has been about getting us up to an elite level. Why do we all worry they're now giving up on having an elite stadium?

I'd love a complete rebuild in our current site. We have plenty of land there, it's just annoyingly shaped. If something can be done about that, the prospect of a new top-of-the-range stadium with first class facilities funding a top four team has me drooling.

To be fair that's like me drooling over the idea of a night with Dua Lipa. It's a nice idea but the chances of it happening are less than zero. How on earth would we get a whole new stadium on the current site? Where would we play in the years it would take to demolish and rebuild? If they're pulling a face at one new stand, how is that you think they're going to demolish all four, especially when two of the stands are half decent and don't need improving yet. If they were going to do that it would make far more sense to just move and build somewhere else.

Our location should be good. And I think it generally would be if the transport stuff was sorted. There are stations and motorways close by; improve the stations and increase capacity, sort out a one-way system for cars, sorted.

I hardly think the chances are less than zero. The very fact they went so far with the new North shows they understand the need for it and have the appetite to invest heavily in the ground. We know they have the resources.

Putting something on hold because you feel there may be a better option is not the same as saying you want to do nothing. I actually like the fact they don't carry on with a plan they've realised now isn't the best idea, I wish more people in business and government had that confidence and strength.

[Didier Five]

I think highly unlikely that the owners will move Aston Villa to another location or build a new stadium, we are going to need four sides to the stadium when we are battering Real Madrid in the Champoins League next season. 

Disappointed the North Stand isn't being renewed sooner but lets wait and see what plans Heck comes up with.

[VillaTim]

help develop the Hawthorns ! i think i'll pass on that gem

[nigel]

Something that haven't actually even done - Heck referred today to consulting with the fan base on the new badge. How have they done that? I must have missed it. They also present it as something they've done out of the goodness of their hearts rather than a Premier League requirement to consult, which is what it is.

There was the same lot of questions to answer that we had last time. As you say, all he needed to say was "we don't think this refelcts how we want to move our brand further, and it's no use for online marketing so we're going to do it better" There would have been a few grumbles but I don't think many people liked the lion facing the wrong way anyway.

In the hospitality areas they've been handing out freebies (wash bag, travel mug, water bottle etc) in the last few weeks at most games, and it's all had this branding on it:



I reckon it's almost certain that what they're planning is this, or the the same with the lion facing the other way.

That is f*ckin’ perfect 👍

[Dogtanian]

Something that haven't actually even done - Heck referred today to consulting with the fan base on the new badge. How have they done that? I must have missed it. They also present it as something they've done out of the goodness of their hearts rather than a Premier League requirement to consult, which is what it is.

There was the same lot of questions to answer that we had last time. As you say, all he needed to say was "we don't think this refelcts how we want to move our brand further, and it's no use for online marketing so we're going to do it better" There would have been a few grumbles but I don't think many people liked the lion facing the wrong way anyway.

In the hospitality areas they've been handing out freebies (wash bag, travel mug, water bottle etc) in the last few weeks at most games, and it's all had this branding on it:



I reckon it's almost certain that what they're planning is this, or the the same with the lion facing the other way.

That is f*ckin’ perfect 👍

Aside from his being menaced by a star, obviously. 

[Villan82]

That badge there is the very same badge Purslow signed off on only it has been taken out of the circle. At the time It was even sold as a badge that could be used in that stand-alone form