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Offline Risso

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4245 on: December 19, 2023, 12:58:18 PM »
We've got the 8th biggest stand in English football, and we're 10K smaller than the next biggest. But adding another 10K seats is too much, too quickly? And I thought Faulkner was an idiot. Fuck me.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4246 on: December 19, 2023, 12:59:42 PM »
Townley says he understands there are no plans to move from VP. But this time yesterday we all thought there were plans to demolish the North Stand and rebuild it.

There aren't any real plans at all, seemingly. A new pub and facilities at Bodymoor? Yep, that's going to help cement our place in the elite of European football.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4247 on: December 19, 2023, 01:01:57 PM »
Wow, there is a lot of jumping to conclusions and the usual over-reactions. 

I can't see too much to get upset about in what he said there, using the current form as a reason might be a little in the now, but nothing too egregious there.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4248 on: December 19, 2023, 01:05:44 PM »
The home form consideration there does ring true (I also totally get any argument that it's shortsighted).

Our upturn has been built on that home form and playing on a building site would impact that, as good as Emery is.

It might also be that the plans currently on Heck's desk are effectively Purslow's and he believes he can do it better. That could be reconfigured North Stand following the Anfield Road template so fans can partly occupy the space during the rebuild. Or a shiny new Witton Lane.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4249 on: December 19, 2023, 01:05:53 PM »
Wow, there is a lot of jumping to conclusions and the usual over-reactions. 

I can't see too much to get upset about in what he said there, using the current form as a reason might be a little in the now, but nothing too egregious there.

One thing I've noticed about Heck so far is that there's been quite a lot of "stopping doing stuff" and not very much of "We're doing this instead".

I take his point about demolishing the north stand whilst having a massive favourable turnaround in what is on the pitch, that makes sense, but it would have been much, much better if he'd described what we were going to do instead.

You've told us what we are not doing, now tell us what we ARE doing.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4250 on: December 19, 2023, 01:07:23 PM »
Wow, there is a lot of jumping to conclusions and the usual over-reactions. 

I can't see too much to get upset about in what he said there, using the current form as a reason might be a little in the now, but nothing too egregious there.

One thing I've noticed about Heck so far is that there's been quite a lot of "stopping doing stuff" and not very much of "We're doing this instead".

I take his point about demolishing the north stand whilst having a massive favourable turnaround in what is on the pitch, that makes sense, but it would have been much, much better if he'd described what we were going to do instead.

You've told us what we are not doing, now tell us what we ARE doing.

Exactly. You can't blame people jumping to conclusions when certainty is replaced with nothing.

Offline Chris Harte

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4251 on: December 19, 2023, 01:08:17 PM »
Wow, there is a lot of jumping to conclusions and the usual over-reactions. 

I can't see too much to get upset about in what he said there, using the current form as a reason might be a little in the now, but nothing too egregious there.

One thing I've noticed about Heck so far is that there's been quite a lot of "stopping doing stuff" and not very much of "We're doing this instead".

I take his point about demolishing the north stand whilst having a massive favourable turnaround in what is on the pitch, that makes sense, but it would have been much, much better if he'd described what we were going to do instead.

You've told us what we are not doing, now tell us what we ARE doing.
"I don't want problems, I want solutions", as an old manager of mine used to boom.

Offline TonyD

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4252 on: December 19, 2023, 01:08:30 PM »
Strange news. 
Either they haven’t got enough cash.
Or a ground move. 

Offline john2710

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4253 on: December 19, 2023, 01:08:53 PM »
I don't buy the we're adding too many seats too soon, unless we're in the Champions League next season?

Is this a reassessment / pause on what was propossed when we were a mid-table club with a dream of reaching the top 6? Now, with Emery we're there & anything is possible.

I think this statement & the low cost upgrades around the existing stadium makes the possibility of a new stadium a very real prospect. I want what's best for Aston Villa but leaving Villa Park for the last time would be heartbreaking.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4254 on: December 19, 2023, 01:09:00 PM »
Wow, there is a lot of jumping to conclusions and the usual over-reactions. 

I can't see too much to get upset about in what he said there, using the current form as a reason might be a little in the now, but nothing too egregious there.

One thing I've noticed about Heck so far is that there's been quite a lot of "stopping doing stuff" and not very much of "We're doing this instead".

I take his point about demolishing the north stand whilst having a massive favourable turnaround in what is on the pitch, that makes sense, but it would have been much, much better if he'd described what we were going to do instead.

You've told us what we are not doing, now tell us what we ARE doing.
Agree.
Not a lot by the sounds of it.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4255 on: December 19, 2023, 01:09:12 PM »
I'd imagine if the thought was there to move from VP, they certainly wouldn't be ready to say anything right now. They'd want to be investigating potential quite a lot of options before they settled on an actual plan.

I love Villa Park. But I do think if we are going to regain our place amongst the big boys we're going to need a new ground eventually.

We love our history, but then we already love Villa. Is our history going to attract the next few generations who compare us to clubs who now have much more trophies and much better stadiums?

Plus, our stadium has very little history left already now. It's 70s - 00s, aside from the location.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4256 on: December 19, 2023, 01:09:14 PM »
Jumping to conclusions? What, so we ARE going to expand the stadium really and this is all an elaborate early April Fool joke?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4257 on: December 19, 2023, 01:09:15 PM »
Seems strange thinking to go with standing still is better than minus 6-7k for 2 years and then having plus 8k and much better hospitality for eternity. Well it does to me when all thinking seems to be about generating revenue long term.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4258 on: December 19, 2023, 01:09:47 PM »
Would it be surprising that this is put on hold so we don’t have a reduced capacity headed into what might be CL football? It would be shit to finally get there and only have three stands in place. So this decisions avoids that but also buys a little more time to get everything right around the ground as well the stand itself.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4259 on: December 19, 2023, 01:11:05 PM »
Seems strange thinking to go with standing still is better than minus 6-7k for 2 years and then having plus 8k and much better hospitality for eternity. Well it does to me when all thinking seems to be about generating revenue long term.

Well, exactly. It's not rocket science.

 


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