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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4140 on: December 11, 2023, 01:29:43 PM »
Look at Fulham and Liverpool - easily a two-year build - especially with 7 months of utility diversions and full demolition of the existing stand - then hosting matches in the middle of a building site.
Just because Fulham and Liverpool are also rubbish doesn’t mean another club cannot build something quicker.   

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4141 on: December 11, 2023, 01:34:17 PM »
Can anyone direct me to evidence that the build is not dependent on the redevelopment of Witton station? I’m arguing with a cocky prat on twitter.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4142 on: December 11, 2023, 01:44:18 PM »
The planning permission on the BCC portal should evidence it. Transport conditions are effectively for the club to "see what we can do". The Witton station upgrade is going to be necessary from a logistics point of view, but its irrelevant to the planning permission for the build.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4143 on: December 11, 2023, 02:00:55 PM »
The planning permission on the BCC portal should evidence it. Transport conditions are effectively for the club to "see what we can do". The Witton station upgrade is going to be necessary from a logistics point of view, but its irrelevant to the planning permission for the build.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4144 on: December 11, 2023, 03:00:37 PM »
Didn't we get a reduced allocation at Liverpool earlier this season?  1600 iirc

Offline Ads

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4145 on: December 11, 2023, 03:12:45 PM »
It was reduced, but not that much; 2400.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4146 on: December 11, 2023, 03:17:38 PM »
Look at Fulham and Liverpool - easily a two-year build - especially with 7 months of utility diversions and full demolition of the existing stand - then hosting matches in the middle of a building site.

Both were not simple builds...

Liverpool built their new stand around the existing one. In doing so, they kept the existing stand open for longer but have the added complexities of managing site safety alongside public access.

Fulham have a very limited site due to the Thames. They needed specialist equipment to excavate under water, build a new river wall, and floating barge cranes etc to build.

The new North stand being a demolish and rebuild will be simple in comparison.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4147 on: December 11, 2023, 03:47:45 PM »
It's not though, as it's knocking down the northern end of the Trinity and moving all the club offices and pre-match facilities.

The Holte in comparison was a simple build and cost around £6m ( the Holte Suite was added later from what i can remember). Even with inflation, the cost of the new stand is massive compared to that - which reflects the complexity and the facilities.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4148 on: December 11, 2023, 04:07:47 PM »
Will this affect any seating in the Trinity Road stand, or is the building work entirely 'behind the scenes' here?
If we're losing a stand for 2 seasons, how many match day tickets will be available assuming all season ticket holders renew?


Also, assuming North Stand season ticket holders will be moved to spare seats in one of the other stands, this could cause another pricing uproar.

How are fans going to react if they're forced to front up for higher price seating in one of other stands? And on the flipside, if the club let them move to say Trinity Road at North Stand prices, how will Trinity Road season ticket holders react to that! Oh boy!



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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4149 on: December 11, 2023, 04:28:36 PM »
Will this affect any seating in the Trinity Road stand, or is the building work entirely 'behind the scenes' here?
If we're losing a stand for 2 seasons, how many match day tickets will be available assuming all season ticket holders renew?


Also, assuming North Stand season ticket holders will be moved to spare seats in one of the other stands, this could cause another pricing uproar.

How are fans going to react if they're forced to front up for higher price seating in one of other stands? And on the flipside, if the club let them move to say Trinity Road at North Stand prices, how will Trinity Road season ticket holders react to that! Oh boy!



I don't think that the Trinity Road ST's should react at all, it's not that the North Stand ST's have any choice in it and they probably wouldn't want to go in the Trinity if they had a choice

I also hope the Club don't charge them any more for having to move

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4150 on: December 11, 2023, 04:48:20 PM »
I expect that I’ll get first refusal in the new stand when it is built. I would also want to pay north stand (tier 4) prices wherever I’m relocated for 2 years, but I doubt that will happen.
I don't think you will be.  The new North will be an expensive stand with the best facilities in the ground I'd assume.  Whilst you'll probably have first refusal it won't be at concessionary rates.  I think you can expect to pay at least the equivalent of the Holte.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4151 on: December 11, 2023, 04:48:38 PM »
Of course they’ll charge Trinity Road prices for North Stand relocaters.

Anyone who thinks they won’t hasn’t been paying attention much lately.

And to be honest, in this case they’re going to be entitled to do so.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4152 on: December 11, 2023, 05:06:55 PM »
Yes, I'd assume those being relocated will be offered available seats anywhere in the ground at the prevailing rates.  But don't expect Holte upper as the fckers hold that back for Terrace View.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4153 on: December 11, 2023, 05:25:33 PM »
We must lose a bit of the lower Witton that joins the North, I can't see how that bit survives.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #4154 on: December 11, 2023, 06:07:52 PM »
Of course they’ll charge Trinity Road prices for North Stand relocaters.

Anyone who thinks they won’t hasn’t been paying attention much lately.

And to be honest, in this case they’re going to be entitled to do so.

I don’t think season ticket holders in the North currently are going to agree that the club are ‘entitled’ because the club are the ones doing the moving.

Agree with everything else though….i suspect the upshot will be well above inflation rises across the stadium & those in the North will get double whammy & the club will give zero effs as every non renewer will give them an extra seat to sell match by match for more.

 


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