Villa Park Redevelopment

[London Villan]

Not sure the construction tender has been awarded yet.

[eamonn]

One of the great things about Villa Park is that we could build a 60k stadium there for about £300/400m with two new stands. Not many clubs have that opportunity.

I'm not sure that there is an opportunity, although I'd be happy to be corrected.

Back in the nineties, when the old one-tier Witton Lane stand needed redeveloping, a huge part of the limitation as I remember was the neighbours at the back of the stand were complaining that they'd never see the sun from their homes again. Now I'm not sure whether this was just an excuse by the neighbours who felt they'd been rubbed-up the wrong way/not offered enough of a bung by the club's then chairman, but it seems to me that the same problem still exists.

If that's no longer the case then great.

Hopefully the sun has moved on over the years.

[Brazilian Villain]

I'm not sure that there is an opportunity, although I'd be happy to be corrected.

Back in the nineties, when the old one-tier Witton Lane stand needed redeveloping, a huge part of the limitation as I remember was the neighbours at the back of the stand were complaining that they'd never see the sun from their homes again. Now I'm not sure whether this was just an excuse by the neighbours who felt they'd been rubbed-up the wrong way/not offered enough of a bung by the club's then chairman, but it seems to me that the same problem still exists.

If that's no longer the case then great.

Hopefully the sun has moved on over the years.

Yeah, for starters they don't have Page 3 girls any more.

[pauliewalnuts]

Can't we just start work before that and not have a gig for The Wings of the 90s?

That's a bit of a weird and nonsense comparison, blimey.

It's not really totally nonsense.

I guess it's the implication that Wings = later incarnation of Paul McCartney from a formerly great group, Foo Fighters = later incarnation of Dave Grohl from a formerly great group, and neither were as good as the original.

Although anyone who thinks Wings were shit wants throwing in a canal.

[ChicagoLion]

Can't we just start work before that and not have a gig for The Wings of the 90s?

That's a bit of a weird and nonsense comparison, blimey.

It's not really totally nonsense.

I guess it's the implication that Wings = later incarnation of Paul McCartney from a formerly great group, Foo Fighters = later incarnation of Dave Grohl from a formerly great group, and neither were as good as the original.

Although anyone who thinks Wings were shit wants throwing in a canal.

Can I choose the canal?

[pauliewalnuts]

Can't we just start work before that and not have a gig for The Wings of the 90s?

That's a bit of a weird and nonsense comparison, blimey.

It's not really totally nonsense.

I guess it's the implication that Wings = later incarnation of Paul McCartney from a formerly great group, Foo Fighters = later incarnation of Dave Grohl from a formerly great group, and neither were as good as the original.

Although anyone who thinks Wings were shit wants throwing in a canal.

Can I choose the canal?

So long as it's deep and cold, yes.

[ChicagoLion]

Can't we just start work before that and not have a gig for The Wings of the 90s?

That's a bit of a weird and nonsense comparison, blimey.

It's not really totally nonsense.

I guess it's the implication that Wings = later incarnation of Paul McCartney from a formerly great group, Foo Fighters = later incarnation of Dave Grohl from a formerly great group, and neither were as good as the original.

Although anyone who thinks Wings were shit wants throwing in a canal.

Can I choose the canal?

So long as it's deep and cold, yes.

Given the choice, listen to a Wings  album, I am choosing the canal.

[olaftab]

Yeah, for starters they don't have Page 3 girls any more.

They don’t? How sad as I thought it provided lot of young ladies with regular source of income and necessary exposure to break into the world of entertainment. I am annoyed now, never going to buy that paper again,

[olaftab]

One of the great things about Villa Park is that we could build a 60k stadium there for about £300/400m with two new stands. Not many clubs have that opportunity.

I'm not sure that there is an opportunity, although I'd be happy to be corrected.

Back in the nineties, when the old one-tier Witton Lane stand needed redeveloping, a huge part of the limitation as I remember was the neighbours at the back of the stand were complaining that they'd never see the sun from their homes again. Now I'm not sure whether this was just an excuse by the neighbours who felt they'd been rubbed-up the wrong way/not offered enough of a bung by the club's then chairman, but it seems to me that the same problem still exists.

If that's no longer the case then great.

All of the affected houses in Witton Lane are no longer there. The next block is houses in Holte road, the side near to Witton Lane and there are no more that 50 or so.

[Dave P]

Not sure the construction tender has been awarded yet.

It hasn't.  Design work has started on 'The Warehouse' as approval was granted in September.  But nothing on the stand.

[Bully2345]

Can't we just start work before that and not have a gig for The Wings of the 90s?

The concerts they've been hosting are very lucrative

[pauliewalnuts]

Not sure the construction tender has been awarded yet.

It hasn't.  Design work has started on 'The Warehouse' as approval was granted in September.  But nothing on the stand.

Design work has already been completed (and then done again) - that's what the architects did and what went through approval.

[Concrete Tom]

One of the great things about Villa Park is that we could build a 60k stadium there for about £300/400m with two new stands. Not many clubs have that opportunity.

I'm not sure that there is an opportunity, although I'd be happy to be corrected.

Back in the nineties, when the old one-tier Witton Lane stand needed redeveloping, a huge part of the limitation as I remember was the neighbours at the back of the stand were complaining that they'd never see the sun from their homes again. Now I'm not sure whether this was just an excuse by the neighbours who felt they'd been rubbed-up the wrong way/not offered enough of a bung by the club's then chairman, but it seems to me that the same problem still exists.

If that's no longer the case then great.

Well, Liverpool solved their very similar problem in a very tawdry way, but it could be done ethically I think. My mate lives in Village Road and he’s hoping to get offered above market value for his house if the Villa decide to expand over that side.

I think there are about 80 homes that would need to be bought to facilitate it. Personally I think we’ll have to wait and see if there is still pent up demand for seats after capacity increases to 50k, then it would be the next logical step.

That's three terraces away from the stadium at the moment. I don't think Village Road or even Yew Tree Road will even be affected.

[Dave P]

Not sure the construction tender has been awarded yet.

It hasn't.  Design work has started on 'The Warehouse' as approval was granted in September.  But nothing on the stand.

Design work has already been completed (and then done again) - that's what the architects did and what went through approval.

Correct, I was thinking more mechanical & electrical detailed design.

[Percy McCarthy]

One of the great things about Villa Park is that we could build a 60k stadium there for about £300/400m with two new stands. Not many clubs have that opportunity.

I'm not sure that there is an opportunity, although I'd be happy to be corrected.

Back in the nineties, when the old one-tier Witton Lane stand needed redeveloping, a huge part of the limitation as I remember was the neighbours at the back of the stand were complaining that they'd never see the sun from their homes again. Now I'm not sure whether this was just an excuse by the neighbours who felt they'd been rubbed-up the wrong way/not offered enough of a bung by the club's then chairman, but it seems to me that the same problem still exists.

If that's no longer the case then great.

Well, Liverpool solved their very similar problem in a very tawdry way, but it could be done ethically I think. My mate lives in Village Road and he’s hoping to get offered above market value for his house if the Villa decide to expand over that side.

I think there are about 80 homes that would need to be bought to facilitate it. Personally I think we’ll have to wait and see if there is still pent up demand for seats after capacity increases to 50k, then it would be the next logical step.

That's three terraces away from the stadium at the moment. I don't think Village Road or even Yew Tree Road will even be affected.

Okay, that’s good then if they’re thinking about that.