Villa Park Redevelopment

[The Edge]

£1billion?

The North Stand is costing the best part of £100 million

So 4 stands is £400 million, I am struggling to find a piece of real estate in Birmingham for £600 million.

Not just 4 stands though, is it? There's the pitch, offices, shop, car park, other buildings. You've also got all the infrastructure underneath the stand.

I can quite well imagine a new ground would be approaching £1b.

I would love the project if they were prepared to pay £1billion for it.
Everton is costing £500 million and it’s next to water.
Of course if you get HS2 in, it would cost 10 billion.

The Everton owner said total costs would be closer to £760m - for a 53k seater.

Spurs stadium cost £1b for 63k.  Construction started in 2015 and building costs are significantly higher, so to replicate that build would be far more now.

I'd imagine if we were building a new stadium (we're not) we'd want it to be 60k.  I'm not sure why you think with additional site assembly costs that Spurs did not have and massively inflated construction fees you think it's so ridiculous that a new stadium would be in the region of £1b.

Chicago - Chris is right.  £1bn is the correct number to be using if we want to start again.  There’s a shit load of variables but unless we get given the land in an area with unrestricted access then the costs of a 60k stadium will be closer to £1bn than £500m.

so you are reaching out and projecting the Everton situation is not a Goldilocks scenario. I think you need to acclimate the real world potential as well as discounting any down side variables. In the fullness of time the project  can have a soft landing as long as we have an off ramp to a better conclusion. From the get go we have been moving towards a sub optimal paradigm. It’s ok that you guys are not exactly rocket scientists but love your sub prime blue collar rear view mirror perspective. It’s how we all grow.

I'd have to be a rocket surgeon or a brain scientist to understand that 

[LeeB]

That's a Michellin starred word salad. I thought he was being serious at first as well.

[paul_e]

Just spotted this in my inbox:

Aston Villa is pleased to announce the launch of a new matchday offering for supporters.

The Lower Grounds will open its doors to a fan-focused experience, which will include food and drinks as part of the package, for the first time against Brighton and Hove Albion on Saturday, September 30.
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Located in the former Holte Suite, the Lower Grounds will be open from three hours before kick-off and up to 90 minutes post-match, supporters will be able to take advantage of all-you-can-eat street food as well as a range of beers, wines and soft drinks* while mingling with former players and watching pre-match build-up, interviews and classic matches on large media screens in a convivial atmosphere.

The package will include seats in the Trinity Road Stand or the Doug Ellis Upper and a matchday programme.

Existing season ticket holders can purchase the package as a bolt-on while they may also be bought on a match-by-match basis.
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An opening offer for the Brighton game is as follows...

Single match package v Brighton - £120 (including VAT)
Season ticket holder bolt-on v Brighton - £60 (including VAT)

To enquire now please contact the Premium team on 0330 314 1322  or email premium@avfc.co.uk. You can also buy directly online by clicking below and signing in:
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*Alcoholic beverages available from two-and-a-half hours before kick-off and up to one hour post-match.

I'm assuming the £120 doesn't include a matchday ticket?

The £120 includes a ticket, the £60 does not

I know it's not a popular opinion on here but that doesn't seem all that bad to me. I'd guess it depends a bit on what you think is reasonable to spend on food and beer at a stadium/venue but £10-12 for something to eat and £5-6 a pint is about what I'd expect (given the offerings at places like Edgbaston).

[chrisw1]

Crazy there is no real discount for ST holders

There is.  ST holders pay 60 quid.  Everyone else pays £120 inc a match ticket (say £45.50) so they're paying £74.50 for the Holte Suite.

[frank black]

So it is all you can drink then?

“a maximum of two drinks for each person can be ordered at any one time.”

[frank black]

Just spotted this in my inbox:

Aston Villa is pleased to announce the launch of a new matchday offering for supporters.

The Lower Grounds will open its doors to a fan-focused experience, which will include food and drinks as part of the package, for the first time against Brighton and Hove Albion on Saturday, September 30.
FIND OUT MORE
BUY ONLINE
Located in the former Holte Suite, the Lower Grounds will be open from three hours before kick-off and up to 90 minutes post-match, supporters will be able to take advantage of all-you-can-eat street food as well as a range of beers, wines and soft drinks* while mingling with former players and watching pre-match build-up, interviews and classic matches on large media screens in a convivial atmosphere.

The package will include seats in the Trinity Road Stand or the Doug Ellis Upper and a matchday programme.

Existing season ticket holders can purchase the package as a bolt-on while they may also be bought on a match-by-match basis.
ENQUIRE NOW
An opening offer for the Brighton game is as follows...

Single match package v Brighton - £120 (including VAT)
Season ticket holder bolt-on v Brighton - £60 (including VAT)

To enquire now please contact the Premium team on 0330 314 1322  or email premium@avfc.co.uk. You can also buy directly online by clicking below and signing in:
BUY ONLINE NOW
*Alcoholic beverages available from two-and-a-half hours before kick-off and up to one hour post-match.

I'm assuming the £120 doesn't include a matchday ticket?

The £120 includes a ticket, the £60 does not

I know it's not a popular opinion on here but that doesn't seem all that bad to me. I'd guess it depends a bit on what you think is reasonable to spend on food and beer at a stadium/venue but £10-12 for something to eat and £5-6 a pint is about what I'd expect (given the offerings at places like Edgbaston).

Just the 8/9 pints to consume to break even

(Although there’s the extra value in no queues , meeting Lee Hendrie etc..,)

[Nev]

It depends what you can afford.

[maidstonevillain]

I assume the Trinity seats (for the seat package) are in A3. The ticket page has startd to lockout all of A3 for the Premier home games (Brighton and West Ham so far). A bit of a p***** for me. I use my Claret membership so I can get tickets close to family season ticket holders in A3.

[Brazilian Villain]

I assume the Trinity seats (for the seat package) are in A3. The ticket page has startd to lockout all of A3 for the Premier home games (Brighton and West Ham so far). A bit of a p***** for me. I use my Claret membership so I can get tickets close to family season ticket holders in A3.

Sounds like a perfect excuse to try out the Premium Experience.

[chrisw1]

I assume the Trinity seats (for the seat package) are in A3. The ticket page has startd to lockout all of A3 for the Premier home games (Brighton and West Ham so far). A bit of a p***** for me. I use my Claret membership so I can get tickets close to family season ticket holders in A3.

Yep looks like it.  There's a 'premium experiences' button for the Brighton game which is now offering Terrace View as a £45 bolt-on for ST holders.  55 Terrace View tickets left.  Lower Ground £60 bolt-on (an introductory offer I imagine) - 143 tickets left.

As much as I'm against Terrace View, there's clearly demand for these spaces.

There's no premium button for West Ham - they really need to sort the website out if they want to sell these things.

[chrisw1]

Revised plans approved.  From Twitter -

#AVFC can celebrate two milestones today:

Plans to speed up the £100m expansion of the North Stand, with a shop, ticket office, and an improved F&B offer, have been approved.✅

As has 'The Warehouse', which will be repurposed into a fan zone, with food/drink & events space. ✅

These plans are (S73) amendments to previously approved Dec 2022 plans to increase VP from 42,657 up to 50,065, along with Villa Live.

[DB]

Get it built.

[chrisw1]

I'm assuming they will be squeezing every sq inch of hospitality they possibly can into this stand, so I wouldn't be holding my breath on the concourses being great.

[LeeB]

I'm assuming they will be squeezing every sq inch of hospitality they possibly can into this stand, so I wouldn't be holding my breath on the concourses being great.

Or the prices.

[hipkiss92]

I'm assuming they will be squeezing every sq inch of hospitality they possibly can into this stand, so I wouldn't be holding my breath on the concourses being great.

At the very least minimum design standards they will now have to meet will be better than anything else currently around the ground.