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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3465 on: September 13, 2023, 12:56:20 PM »
Andy Street proudly tweeting today that he’s commissioned a study to look at options for Witton station.

Incredible that this is as far as it has got thus far.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3466 on: September 13, 2023, 01:59:15 PM »
The train station at witton is a complete disgrace, whether it is for the Villa improvements or not it needs doing

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3467 on: September 13, 2023, 02:04:12 PM »
Andy Street proudly tweeting today that he’s commissioned a study to look at options for Witton station.

Incredible that this is as far as it has got thus far.

“That’s why we’re working on how best to redevelop the station by undertaking a feasibility study that will give us a clear indication of the funding required and the options ahead of us. This is just the first step as we will then need to put together a strong business case and find the money to make this happen but nonetheless it does bring us a step closer to delivering a premier railway station."

I think I've said this before, but I bet you a shiny new pound that the North Stand as it is now will be exactly the same in 5 years time.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3468 on: September 13, 2023, 02:17:03 PM »
The train station at witton is a complete disgrace, whether it is for the Villa improvements or not it needs doing

You can build the biggest, newest and shiniest station, you can have state of the art trains and the SAS can be marshaling the queues but until Proofhouse Junction is sorted getting back to New Street will still be an embarrassment.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3469 on: September 13, 2023, 02:48:04 PM »
Andy Street proudly tweeting today that he’s commissioned a study to look at options for Witton station.

Incredible that this is as far as it has got thus far.

“That’s why we’re working on how best to redevelop the station by undertaking a feasibility study that will give us a clear indication of the funding required and the options ahead of us. This is just the first step as we will then need to put together a strong business case and find the money to make this happen but nonetheless it does bring us a step closer to delivering a premier railway station."

I think I've said this before, but I bet you a shiny new pound that the North Stand as it is now will be exactly the same in 5 years time.

This doesn't sound promising... look how long it's taken to reopen the Camp Hill line stations - let alone the new tracks to allow them to use Moor Street. It's been talked about for years and years. Same with the Metro to the Airport. Financially all three of those probably offer better returns than spending tens of millions on Witton...

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3470 on: September 13, 2023, 03:47:12 PM »
I know we like to stray off topic, but this international break must be the most random ever. Smurfs and the NHS IT system!

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3471 on: September 13, 2023, 04:00:41 PM »
Andy Street proudly tweeting today that he’s commissioned a study to look at options for Witton station.

Incredible that this is as far as it has got thus far.

“That’s why we’re working on how best to redevelop the station by undertaking a feasibility study that will give us a clear indication of the funding required and the options ahead of us. This is just the first step as we will then need to put together a strong business case and find the money to make this happen but nonetheless it does bring us a step closer to delivering a premier railway station."

I think I've said this before, but I bet you a shiny new pound that the North Stand as it is now will be exactly the same in 5 years time.

This doesn't sound promising... look how long it's taken to reopen the Camp Hill line stations - let alone the new tracks to allow them to use Moor Street. It's been talked about for years and years. Same with the Metro to the Airport. Financially all three of those probably offer better returns than spending tens of millions on Witton...

It's one of the shittest things I've ever read.  A year after the plans are revealed, he's now got round to commissioning a report. Not actually producing a report, but talking about getting a report. And then they've got to look for the money. So let's say 18 months to do the study and report on it, another 18 months to fuck about getting the funding in place, then a couple of years to actually build everything.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3472 on: September 13, 2023, 04:01:31 PM »
If I was either of the owners, I’d be looking for building land. The amount of money that needs spending on Villa Park, the transportation issues and the site limitations - there is certainly a case for a new stadium elsewhere.

I’m not quite sure how I feel about that as a fan. But there is a case for it.


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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3473 on: September 13, 2023, 04:10:26 PM »
If I was either of the owners, I’d be looking for building land. The amount of money that needs spending on Villa Park, the transportation issues and the site limitations - there is certainly a case for a new stadium elsewhere.

I’m not quite sure how I feel about that as a fan. But there is a case for it.



Yep, I've said the same thing lots of times. Everton managed it and they've got the sea on one side!

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3474 on: September 13, 2023, 04:14:10 PM »
If I was either of the owners, I’d be looking for building land. The amount of money that needs spending on Villa Park, the transportation issues and the site limitations - there is certainly a case for a new stadium elsewhere.

I’m not quite sure how I feel about that as a fan. But there is a case for it.



Yep, I've said the same thing lots of times. Everton managed it and they've got the sea on one side!

yep, that's been my thinking as well. Villa Park is great and it would be a massive shame to move but staying there comes with its problems. I'd want something closer to the city centre though, not out of town somewhere.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3475 on: September 13, 2023, 04:24:19 PM »
We break ground after the Foo Fighters concert, upgrade or not.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3476 on: September 13, 2023, 04:31:12 PM »
We break ground after the Foo Fighters concert, upgrade or not.

I would assume the upgraded transport is a condition of the planning permission, so if firm plans for the station aren't in place, they won't be allowed to do that. They can probably crack on with tarting up the Villa Live or whatever the new version is called, but nothing else.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3477 on: September 13, 2023, 04:31:31 PM »
The thing is, I don't see any significant help coming from the Council any time soon so a relocation is probably off the table too.

I think we just need to crack on with it and go down the coaches' route and maybe find some more car parking partners and hope the train station catches up in due course

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3478 on: September 13, 2023, 04:34:21 PM »
The thing is, I don't see any significant help coming from the Council any time soon so a relocation is probably off the table too.

I think we just need to crack on with it and go down the coaches' route and maybe find some more car parking partners and hope the train station catches up in due course

I'm only guessing, but similar to my comment above, this would probably require another revision of planning, and my guess is it would be turned down. They have to say how the plans would affect existing traffic flows and the overall effect on the local area, and so getting 50K+ fans in and out quickly is a huge part of that.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3479 on: September 13, 2023, 04:38:35 PM »
If I was either of the owners, I’d be looking for building land. The amount of money that needs spending on Villa Park, the transportation issues and the site limitations - there is certainly a case for a new stadium elsewhere.

I’m not quite sure how I feel about that as a fan. But there is a case for it.



Yep, I've said the same thing lots of times. Everton managed it and they've got the sea on one side!

yep, that's been my thinking as well. Villa Park is great and it would be a massive shame to move but staying there comes with its problems. I'd want something closer to the city centre though, not out of town somewhere.

Is there any point in asking where?

 


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