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Offline Ads

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3420 on: August 07, 2023, 12:07:38 PM »
Our away allocation for Liverpool has been reduced by around 500, which probably lends support to the notion that the away end here next season will be cut too.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3421 on: September 05, 2023, 10:56:50 AM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66715441 !!

Does this jeopardise our stand reconstruction/ witton station development / euro host ground chances ?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3422 on: September 05, 2023, 11:03:01 AM »
Wouldn't think so, what bit would the council be funding? They don't own our ground or Witton station afaik.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3423 on: September 05, 2023, 11:26:57 AM »
I think stuff like the station redevelopment would come from the West Midlands Combined Authority, which I think gets funded by central government.  So it should be ok.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3424 on: September 05, 2023, 12:05:28 PM »
It seems to have been talked about for what 10-15 years…shan’t hold my breath whoever is supposed to be funding

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3425 on: September 05, 2023, 12:26:22 PM »
The optics of both holding the Euros and spending £30 million on a train station may become untenable, wherever the funding for the station is supposed to come from.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3426 on: September 05, 2023, 12:29:59 PM »
I have a terrible feeling that there will be no redevelopment and that's why the club are trying to wring every penny out of the facilities we have. I do hope I'm wrong.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3427 on: September 05, 2023, 12:35:22 PM »
I wouldn't want to rely on Birmingham City Council for anything - it's a chaotic mess and isn't fit for purpose. It's not just equal pay, but IT systems, road maintenance contracts, let alone the quality of social services. It might be too big, not structured properly, have incompetence at every level, but it doesn't reflect well on the status of the city and how well it has been run in the past.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3428 on: September 05, 2023, 02:57:53 PM »
Network Rail own the station, a Dutch company runs the franchise and WM Combined Authority deliver funding.

The reason why the club is seeking to maximise revenues is because we lag dramatically behind our peers on commercial income. The redevelopment is a large part of addressing that, but not the only part. Quite why you'd conclude it isn't happening, I'm not sure.

As for BCC, they're appallingly run. As bad as any of the shambles in London, only London councils have the benefit of being smaller and totally incompetent, rather than absolutely huge an utterly incompetent. Local Government is a strange place.
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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3429 on: September 05, 2023, 03:12:31 PM »
Network Rail own the station, a Dutch company runs the franchise and WM Combined Authority deliver funding.

The reason why the club is seeking to maximise revenues is because we lag dramatically behind our peers on commercial income. The redevelopment is a large part of addressing that, but not the only part. Quite why you'd conclude it isn't happening, I'm not sure.

As for BCC, they're appallingly run. As bad as any of the shambles in London, only London councils have the benefit of being smaller and totally incompetent, rather than absolutely huge an utterly incompetent. Local Government is a strange place.

Local government does seem to attract an unusually high number of staff who tick boxes (always on time, rarely off sick, don't cause any drama) but actually bring nothing to the job. I worked with the IT team for the best part of 5 years, and amongst the handful of genuinely competent people there were loads whose entire job amounted to taking requests, sitting on them for a bit whilst doing irrelevant busy work and then passing it to someone who could actually fix it just before it became urgent.

The whole thing was supported by most of the middle management being so useless that they either didn't know there were any problems or they created the problems to make themselves look like thy were doing everything just to hold thing together.

It was best summed up a few months before I left when they promoted a woman who'd been made effectively redundant because so many of the schools she was supposed to work with refused to deal with her. Couldn't sack her so decided instead to move her to a job where she couldn't do any more damage, and give her a big payrise.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3430 on: September 05, 2023, 04:42:34 PM »
This makes it all the more essential that the Council bend over backwards to facilitate the ambitions of genuinely positive investors, like the owners of the city’s most high profile business, Aston Villa.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3431 on: September 05, 2023, 05:40:21 PM »
Network Rail own the station, a Dutch company runs the franchise and WM Combined Authority deliver funding.

The reason why the club is seeking to maximise revenues is because we lag dramatically behind our peers on commercial income. The redevelopment is a large part of addressing that, but not the only part. Quite why you'd conclude it isn't happening, I'm not sure.

As for BCC, they're appallingly run. As bad as any of the shambles in London, only London councils have the benefit of being smaller and totally incompetent, rather than absolutely huge an utterly incompetent. Local Government is a strange place.

Local government does seem to attract an unusually high number of staff who tick boxes (always on time, rarely off sick, don't cause any drama) but actually bring nothing to the job. I worked with the IT team for the best part of 5 years, and amongst the handful of genuinely competent people there were loads whose entire job amounted to taking requests, sitting on them for a bit whilst doing irrelevant busy work and then passing it to someone who could actually fix it just before it became urgent.

The whole thing was supported by most of the middle management being so useless that they either didn't know there were any problems or they created the problems to make themselves look like thy were doing everything just to hold thing together.

It was best summed up a few months before I left when they promoted a woman who'd been made effectively redundant because so many of the schools she was supposed to work with refused to deal with her. Couldn't sack her so decided instead to move her to a job where she couldn't do any more damage, and give her a big payrise.
majority of which I wouldn't let run a bath,all they want is yes men or women

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3432 on: September 05, 2023, 08:34:30 PM »
No idea what it will mean but Birmingham City Council declaring itself bankrupt isn't going to help.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3433 on: September 05, 2023, 08:47:29 PM »
No idea what it will mean but Birmingham City Council declaring itself bankrupt isn't going to help.

As someone said the railway improvements are on the train company, the ground is on us and the access elements are on the combined authority which uses different budgets so it shouldn't make much difference really.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3434 on: September 05, 2023, 09:47:57 PM »
Birmingham City Council won't have anything to do with paying to upgrade the station.

 


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