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Offline The Man With A Stick

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3030 on: July 06, 2023, 07:24:21 AM »
The Warehouse looks great but it needs to be twice the size, given there's hardly anywhere to get a drink near the ground any more.  If it does well maybe they could expand or replicate it over where the ticket office currently is.

Offline Des Little

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3031 on: July 06, 2023, 07:48:52 AM »
Makes sense to do this. Making Villa Live sustainable would have been a huge challenge, one I don’t think we’d be able to achieve just yet, so this is a decent alternative - provided they can get rid of the stink in the place.

This, together with the revamped Witton Arms should be a decent upgrade on current options near the ground.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2023, 08:01:37 AM by Des Little »

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3032 on: July 06, 2023, 07:52:33 AM »
Why not copy the Victorians and bench seat the walls, then add Brittania Tables for a real pub effect and ultimate use of space for seating / drinking.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3033 on: July 06, 2023, 08:21:18 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3034 on: July 06, 2023, 09:17:06 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Sorry to be a bit thick but I’m not familiar with term value engineered, any chance of a translation that my old brain will understand.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3035 on: July 06, 2023, 09:36:11 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Sorry to be a bit thick but I’m not familiar with term value engineered, any chance of a translation that my old brain will understand.

Starts off with all bells and whistles, costs cut as it goes along.

Offline Risso

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3036 on: July 06, 2023, 09:46:16 AM »
The Warehouse looks great but it needs to be twice the size, given there's hardly anywhere to get a drink near the ground any more.

That's exactly what Villa Live was supposed to be.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3037 on: July 06, 2023, 09:54:10 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Sorry to be a bit thick but I’m not familiar with term value engineered, any chance of a translation that my old brain will understand.
From oak panelling to chip board,

Starts off with all bells and whistles, costs cut as it goes along.

Offline Chris Smith

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3038 on: July 06, 2023, 10:14:15 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Sorry to be a bit thick but I’m not familiar with term value engineered, any chance of a translation that my old brain will understand.

Starts off with all bells and whistles, costs cut as it goes along.

Ta.

Offline cdward

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3039 on: July 06, 2023, 10:15:56 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Sorry to be a bit thick but I’m not familiar with term value engineered, any chance of a translation that my old brain will understand.

Starts off with all bells and whistles, costs cut as it goes along.
New buildings usually start off as a grand palace with lots of innovation and cutting edge ideas, and end up as a square box. Form follows function.

Offline Axl Rose

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3040 on: July 06, 2023, 10:16:37 AM »
The Warehouse looks great but it needs to be twice the size, given there's hardly anywhere to get a drink near the ground any more.

That's exactly what Villa Live was supposed to be.

This. It all looks a little bit tinpot. Not terrible, just a bit cheap

Get Villa Live built Villa, fucking hell

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3041 on: July 06, 2023, 10:22:42 AM »
Id imagine there will outdoor benches and marquees, to give it the full urban streetfood feel.

Be interesting to see how value engineered the new stand is too.

Sorry to be a bit thick but I’m not familiar with term value engineered, any chance of a translation that my old brain will understand.

Starts off with all bells and whistles, costs cut as it goes along.
New buildings usually start off as a grand palace with lots of innovation and cutting edge ideas, and end up as a square box. Form follows function.

Ironic that the original Trinity broke all of those rules with Rinder’s “money no object” approach to the architecture.

Offline Nev

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3042 on: July 06, 2023, 10:26:22 AM »
Crack on with the ground, continue with the outdoor bars and streetfood (i.e food) around the perimeter to make up for the lack of facilities in the surrounding area and when the ground is done then have a look at beer halls/Villa live or whatever it turns out to be.

Offline artvandelay

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3043 on: July 06, 2023, 10:37:38 AM »
As an aside, when did we slip into not calling the Witton Lane stand its real name anymore? I appreciate it's a quarter of a century or so down the line but still

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3044 on: July 06, 2023, 10:46:20 AM »
One thing I’ve noticed while a lot of clubs have moved to new grounds, how much the away fans like and appreciate Villa Park and the atmosphere of a traditional club
It happens more and more as the football ground landscape becomes very similar

There is always very favourable comments by the away visitors, proper ground, proper club all that sort of stuff
I reckon it would be away fans favourite ground

And there’s us saying we should knock it down. It’s an absolute joke
There be an outcry from Villa fans if that ever happened and not only Villa fans
It would be like knocking down Hever Castle because it isn’t roomy enough and the toilets need attention

I’ve been to most of the new grounds They are all nice, but there’s something missing
Let’s not become the local counsellors of the 60’s and 70’s knocking down precious buildings and building shit that won’t last in its place

Take the Villa away from Villa Park and you take the heart out of the club



 


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